Inform the debate on the effect of the equalisation of the state pension age on women

Figgerty

The Government ran a very successful campaign on HIV/AIDS years ago. Even I, watching soaps, dramas and Top of the Pops managed to be aware of the disease/virus. I don't know the cost of the campaign but it certainly made us all aware of the risk. We even discussed it in my workplace.

That campaign was aimed at a small percentage of the population, it reached many millions. If the Government who could do it for those at risk of HIV or AIDS, why not for the many millions who are having their state pension age changed from an historical 60 (women) and 65 (men).

saver861

colsten wrote: »

Had it occurred to you that sending a letter to someone costs a lot more than the price of a postage stamp?

Yes - there is the cost of the paper - say 0.5p per sheet. The cost of the toner 0.01p per letter.


The stated costs apparently are £100bn for the 1995 act to be abolished. £30bn for the 2011 act so... either it will be £70bn or £30bn.

Thats still a lot cheaper than 'hundreds of billions' to send out the letters!!!

Now .. by my reckoning ...... we have 24 million households in the UK. Even at £1 per letter that would be just £24m - loose change in comparison.

£24m or £hundreds of billions ... easy mistake to make I suppose .....

colsten

saver861 wrote: »

Yes - there is the cost of the paper - say 0.5p per sheet. The cost of the toner 0.01p per letter.


The stated costs apparently are £100bn for the 1995 act to be abolished. £30bn for the 2011 act so... either it will be £70bn or £30bn.

Thats still a lot cheaper than 'hundreds of billions' to send out the letters!!!

Now .. by my reckoning ...... we have 24 million households in the UK. Even at £1 per letter that would be just £24m - loose change in comparison.

£24m or £hundreds of billions ... easy mistake to make I suppose .....

Your ignorance in what is involved in producing and sending letters shines through.

As does your ignorance about the fact that I said the billions refer to advising people personally of changes in legislation. Not just changes in pension legislation etc etc.

Figgerty

Communication on state pension changes

If our Prime Minister today keeps miscommunicating the new state pension amount, then many more people, men and women, will be let down by the reality.

"with the introduction of the single tier pension at £155" Prime Minister today at PMQ's

no clarification, no up to, no qualification, just at £155" he certainly did not say only a third in the first 10 years would receive the full £155

The reality
"In July it was revealed that just one in three would be eligible for the full flat-rate amount of £155.65 per week in the system’s first 10 years."
from Lib Dem Voice

Why is our Government still spinning, Mr Cameron?

Former Pensions Minister Steve Webb stated that he made a bad decision on the 2011 Act and excused it by saying that he had been badly briefed.

Did he sign off without questioning the details. If so, he should have been more attentive rather than dreaming of his Lamborghini. He is no longer an MP

saver861

colsten wrote: »

Your ignorance in what is involved in producing and sending letters shines through.

Do correct me please.

How much will it cost to create, mass produce and send a letter?

colsten wrote: »

As does your ignorance about the fact that I said the billions refer to advising people personally of changes in legislation. Not just changes in pension legislation etc etc.

Even it they did, £24m per letter per household. Two letters a year round it up to £50m.

It would take 20 years to come to a total cost of £1bn - and thus 200 years to come to a cost of just £100bn.

Do correct me where I'm missing the rest of these "hundreds of billions". Checked the batteries in the calculator and they are showing good, so its not that.

jem16

slightlymiffed wrote: »

Sorry - 'Phased in', 'staggered' - semantics.

The correction was to your assertion of the state pension age from 1995 Act only being available from 2001. The exact ages according to birthdate was clearly written in the Pension Act of 1995 and available since then.

atush

Figgerty wrote: »

The Government ran a very successful campaign on HIV/AIDS years ago. Even I, watching soaps, dramas and Top of the Pops managed to be aware of the disease/virus. I don't know the cost of the campaign but it certainly made us all aware of the risk. We even discussed it in my workplace.

That campaign was aimed at a small percentage of the population, it reached many millions. If the Government who could do it for those at risk of HIV or AIDS, why not for the many millions who are having their state pension age changed from an historical 60 (women) and 65 (men).

Sorry, but as an HIV/Aids researcher, you were paying attention because it was linked to sexual health. And possibly your own risk of same.

As this is more 'sexy' and interesting than talk of state pensions.

When those ads came on (if there were tv ads) you would have been off to the toilet or making a cuppa. Like soap watchers do.

Dont take my word for it take the electricity board's word- as there is a spike in electricity and water usage during commercial breaks/before after soaps. And the FA cup etc.

atush

saver861 wrote: »

Yes - there is the cost of the paper - say 0.5p per sheet. The cost of the toner 0.01p per letter.


The stated costs apparently are £100bn for the 1995 act to be abolished. £30bn for the 2011 act so... either it will be £70bn or £30bn.

Thats still a lot cheaper than 'hundreds of billions' to send out the letters!!!

Now .. by my reckoning ...... we have 24 million households in the UK. Even at £1 per letter that would be just £24m - loose change in comparison.

£24m or £hundreds of billions ... easy mistake to make I suppose .....

I live miles from my nearest post office- would cost me a few quid round trip just for the diesel.


Gah, now you have me hijacking threads along with you- I am sure you promised to stop?

#facepalm #facepalm #facepalm

saver861

atush wrote: »

I live miles from my nearest post office- would cost me a few quid round trip just for the diesel.


Gah, now you have me hijacking threads along with you- I am sure you promised to stop?

#facepalm #facepalm #facepalm

Well I can't answer otherwise you will be telling me off for hijacking the thread ..... see I'm being a good lad!!

Don't go facepalming yourself though .... it's detrimental to your beauty

Figgerty

atush wrote: »

Sorry, but as an HIV/Aids researcher, you were paying attention because it was linked to sexual health. And possibly your own risk of same.

As this is more 'sexy' and interesting than talk of state pensions.

When those ads came on (if there were tv ads) you would have been off to the toilet or making a cuppa. Like soap watchers do.

Dont take my word for it take the electricity board's word- as there is a spike in electricity and water usage during commercial breaks/before after soaps. And the FA cup etc.

You said "but as an HIV/Aids researcher" is that you or me?

Being in a stable relationship I did not think I was at risk. The campaign grabbed everyones attention back then.

You are partly right about what I do during ads. Toilet, coffee and channel hopping looking for something better to watch. I still manage to see ads like one from Which? where they have produced a booklet on the state pension. I wasn't quick enough to get the number but I'm sure it will be shown again on Sky News.