Inform the debate on the effect of the equalisation of the state pension age on women

jem16

Pollycat wrote: »

Hopefully not with all the comments from this thread taken on board.

Having now read it, I can say it does not.

Waspi's main Facebook "ask" is included from the Work and Pensions Select Committee transcript as is Ros Altmann's astonishment over it.

Seems to be all about 2011 and not about 1995 which, although mentioned for clarity, is not seen as something to be looked at.

bigadaj

I have a lot of sympathy for buggy boys view, and would agree that the baby boomers have taken most of the money. I'm a little younger than the baby boomers, being fairly solid mid generation x though I dislike the term, and it seems clear that baby boomers are the luckiest generation that has lived, and may well be ever. I would note that I would consider my generation to be scone to the bay boomers, my parents grew up knowing real poverty and younger generations are clearly getting the rough end of the deal. If you think not then just consider how may elderly each one will be carrying with their tax burden compared to that of current and near future retirees whilst they were working.

The changes to state pension changes should have started far earlier when it became obvious of the rapidly increasing life expectancy, let's not forget the retirement age of 65 was introduced when the average male life expectancy was 66, so reliant on a huge minority never living to claim it.

I've worked overseas and can see the attraction for younger people to move abroad, where the money is going to come for the ever increasing benefits, pensions and health care isn't at all clear, we're still borrowing increasing amounts even though the deficit is reducing, companies are minimising their tax bills, individuals can't be taxed above 45%, and higher rate tax encroaches at lower levels.

This might not be a problem relevant to current retirees but there's no magic money tree and the money has to come from somewhere.

colsten

jem16 wrote: »

Having now read it, I can say it does not.

Waspi's main Facebook "ask" is included from the Work and Pensions Select Committee transcript as is Ros Altmann's astonishment over it.

Seems to be all about 2011 and not about 1995 which, although mentioned for clarity, is not seen as something to be looked at.

I have heard rumours they changed their "ask" yet again.....albeit no indication on their Facebook that they did. A friend mentioned seeing something on Twitter but I haven't seen it myself, and my friend wasn't clear on what that change entailed. He's off to the pub now, so can't ask him further.

This is way more interesting than any soap!

jem16

colsten wrote: »

I have heard rumours they changed their "ask" yet again.....albeit no indication on their Facebook that they did.

Probably down to this tweet;

https://twitter.com/WASPI_Campaign/status/693004476618248193

colsten

bigadaj wrote: »

.......... individuals can't be taxed above 45%, and higher rate tax encroaches at lower levels.

This might not be a problem relevant to current retirees but there's no magic money tree and the money has to come from somewhere.

Just wait for Jeremy and John to get their hands on the tiller, they'll soon up the personal tax to 60%+, tax those b****d international companies out of the country, and pick the fruits of money trees nobody has even planted yet, and will never plant. That is, if they are still alive by the time Labour gets into government ever again.

colsten

jem16 wrote: »

Probably down to this tweet;

https://twitter.com/WASPI_Campaign/status/693004476618248193

WOW, that's some departure from what they asked for before! "we now have to be reasonable" :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

WASPI_Campaign wrote:

ask govt.negotiate.

That should be an interesting event.

Thanks a lot for that link, jem16.

EDIT: NB. May be the @WASPI Campaign account got hacked? That's the excuse most Kippers use when they have tweeted something they regret tweeting. May be #WASPI could borrow that excuse.

xylophone

I would note that I would consider my generation to be scone to the bay boomers,

Having their cake and eating it?:)

Figgerty

Do all the post baby-oomers who complain about the 'had it all' earlier generation vote or belong to a trade union?

bigadaj

Figgerty wrote: »

Do all the post baby-oomers who complain about the 'had it all' earlier generation vote or belong to a trade union?

Yes and no respectively.

Figgerty

colsten wrote: »

WOW, that's some departure from what they asked for before! "we now have to be reasonable" :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

That should be an interesting event.

Thanks a lot for that link, jem16.

EDIT: NB. May be the @WASPI Campaign account got hacked? That's the excuse most Kippers use when they have tweeted something they regret tweeting. May be #WASPI could borrow that excuse.

Our Prime Minister has been reducing his demands on the EU on each and every visit. What a way to run a Government!