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Time off work for surgical abortion.

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  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    I wonder if a way for the OP to pitch this to her employer is to say that if she doesn't have the abortion then she'll be taking a year off on maternity leave - perhaps they might be happier to pay for time off for a few appointments rather than face the cost and disruption to the business of an employee with a new baby.
  • agrinnall wrote: »
    I wonder if a way for the OP to pitch this to her employer is to say that if she doesn't have the abortion then she'll be taking a year off on maternity leave - perhaps they might be happier to pay for time off for a few appointments rather than face the cost and disruption to the business of an employee with a new baby.

    Oh yes, i'm sure that some overworked and underpaid HR staff member would just love to have this come across their desk. To have to deal with the decision of having someone else's baby aborted, they'll be glad they turned up to work that day.

    Anyway, the original post is a total wind up.
  • Tiddlywinks
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    agrinnall wrote: »
    I wonder if a way for the OP to pitch this to her employer is to say that if she doesn't have the abortion then she'll be taking a year off on maternity leave - perhaps they might be happier to pay for time off for a few appointments rather than face the cost and disruption to the business of an employee with a new baby.

    But why should the employer foot the bill? I mean, should the company let people off early to go and buy condoms for the same 'cost savings'?

    Unwanted pregnancy is an avoidable condition (unless a crime is involved).

    I think the 'ectopic' stuff has been thrown in as filling - if that were the reason then the procedure would already be planned and no issues around leave as it would be a medical condition.

    This is a procedure as a result of a lifestyle choice so surely the employee should use annual or unpaid leave.
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  • Poppie68
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    Good point Tiddleywinks....if it was an ectopic pregnancy it would be a emergency procedure so normal sickness rules would apply...
  • suki1964
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    edited 21 January 2016 at 11:09PM
    Erm, surely all you need to do is say "elective surgery' and take two days sick

    Why do you need to make a deal out of aborting?


    ( I don't mean to offend the anti abortionist by sounding flippant )but end of the day,employers do not have to know the ins and outs of why you are in hospital

    Make your plans, the hospital/clinic will give you a fit note to cover work
  • theoretica
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    Which is quite generous.

    Where would your employer draw the line? Suppose somebody chose to have major cosmetic surgery then needed six weeks off to recover?

    I don't know where the line would be drawn - not sure it has ever come up. But I am pretty confident if someone handed in a sickline for recovery time after unspecified surgery and said they wished to keep the details to themselves that management wouldn't insist on prying further.

    Also, from the employers point of view, the time off needed will presumably be far less than maternity leave.
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  • JJG
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    theoretica wrote: »
    I don't know where the line would be drawn - not sure it has ever come up. But I am pretty confident if someone handed in a sickline for recovery time after unspecified surgery and said they wished to keep the details to themselves that management wouldn't insist on prying further.

    Also, from the employers point of view, the time off needed will presumably be far less than maternity leave.

    And from the employees point of view, the cost of bringing up an unwanted child is a lot more than two days unpaid leave.
  • Don't tell them it is an abortion, just that it is a surgical procedure in the ladies department.
  • It took a couple of weeks for my daughters ectopic to be diagnosed last year. There were indicators, but no hard 'evidence'- there were many, many appointments before we got a definitive answer; followed swiftly by emergency surgery and the loss of a tube.
    It's not always cut and dried.
    Only dead fish go with the flow...
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    suki1964 wrote: »
    Erm, surely all you need to do is say "elective surgery' and take two days sick


    Make your plans, the hospital/clinic will give you a fit note to cover work

    Elective surgery, or any other procedure which you choose to have, is not counted as sickness. That is why. Whether the employer decides to ask for the reason or not is up to them, but they have a right to, and they have a right to refuse time off work for sickness when you have chosen to have a procedure.
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