Importing motorbike from France

pappa_golf

digging this thread up as there is some useful info,


bike: 1978 (Kawasaki) , believed to have come from Germany (german vin plate)


bought a few mths ago , private seller , NO V5 or VRN , believed to have been in this country for 10-15 yrs in multiple ownership whilst being rebuilt.


dating letter from VJcc obtained , forms sent to DVLA , they have fired it back , wanting a NOVA.


online submission made and this come up


Re: Online Notification of Vehicle Arrivals (NOVA) submission

Submission reference: 4xxxxxxx
NOVA reference: NOVA1xxxxxxxxx
VIN: k1xxxxxxx

Thank you for your vehicle notification.

For information purposes the relevant law relating to notification and payment of VAT due in respect of the acquisition (purchase) of a new means of transport or the arrival in the UK of a means of transport is contained in para 2 (4) to (5D) of Schedule 11 to the Value Added Tax Act 1994 and the related regulations.

As advised on the acknowledgement of your on line submission, the VAT amount due is shown below.

VAT liability and amount due

Price paid: 500.00 GBP
Exchange rate:
Value (£): 500.00
VAT amount due @ 20.00%: £100.00

The VAT amount due will have to be paid before an application to DVLA to register and license the vehicle can be made.

Any payments should be made electronically by the Faster Payments Service, Bankers Automated Clearing Services (BACS) or Clearing House Automated Payment System (CHAPS). The vehicle notification reference number will need to be quoted when making payment. The sort code, account number and account name to use can be found on the HMRC web site Paying HMRC URL

Any payment that is outstanding and is not paid on receipt of this correspondence will be referred for debt recovery action, unless you disagree with HMRC's decision - please see below.




I thought a 39 yr old motorbike that had done 40.000 miles with a REBUILT value of £500 and had come from Europe was exempt from VAT


other suggestions please

AdrianC

If you can prove that VAT has been paid in an EU member country - by, for instance, showing that it's been on German plates - then no VAT is due.

But they won't just take your word for it.

pappa_golf

alas there is no german doccies , but how else would it have left a dealership without VAT being paid?

AdrianC

pappa_golf wrote: »

alas there is no german doccies , but how else would it have left a dealership without VAT being paid?

A dealership where? In the UK?

pappa_golf

no presumably in Germany , there is a early VIN type plate on the bike , with writing in german , the dating officer at the VJCC states that the bike was supplied to the " north European" area , ie not an import from japan or USA , I was told not vat on this

AdrianC

pappa_golf wrote: »

no presumably in Germany , there is a early VIN type plate on the bike , with writing in german , the dating officer at the VJCC states that the bike was supplied to the " north European" area , ie not an import from japan or USA , I was told not vat on this

So you don't have any documentation at all for anything prior to the import to the UK?

Problem is that Germany still doesn't have a single national vehicle registry - it's all done regionally. If you don't know which region it was registered in, you can't easily ask if that VIN was ever registered there. And there's a LOT of 'em...
http://www.kfz.de/autokennzeichen/autokennzeichen_deutschland/

Which points you to Kawasaki Germany, I think, as your best bet.

pappa_golf

Kawasaki Germany (now Netherlands) pointed me to Kawasaki Uk , they have full European records , HOWEVER they did not include bike registed before VIN numbers existed , at which point I was pointed to the VJCC who could assist with a dating thing