Can any Good Ever come of Reporting Bullying?

xapprenticex

lol, working where i used to work, i should know, we dealt with these issues on a daily. Anyway, nonsense it is. :rotfl:

ohreally

glentoran99 wrote: »

as I asked the previous poster, give me an example of bullying that wouldn't be against the law?

All unwanted behaviour that isn't a protected characteristic.

glentoran99

ohreally wrote: »

All unwanted behaviour that isn't a protected characteristic.

Example please of bullying that would not be covered by existing laws? either in or out of the workplace

ohreally

Since the term covers wide and diverse actions and perceived actions it may be more productive to inform us what's on your mind or we will end up going in circles here.

glentoran99

ohreally wrote: »

Since the term covers wide and diverse actions and perceived actions it may be more productive to inform us what's on your mind or we will end up going in circles here.

im saying its covered by law, your saying its not, so give me an example of bullying that isn't covered by existing laws,


always easier to deal in actual situations even if hypothetical

xapprenticex

provide examples that are covered , even hypothetical situations that dont involve protected characteristics .

ohreally

glentoran99 wrote: »

im saying its covered by law, your saying its not

What law are you stating covers bullying?

I'm not saying what your stating, the web site I quoted for your information is explicit on this, going a stage further, you cannot take a complaint of bullying to an employment tribunal for this reason (its outwith their jurisdiction).

The only way forward may be to make a complaint to police under PFH legislation.

http://www.personneltoday.com/hr/legal-qa-the-protection-from-harassment-act-1997/

BigAunty

The public sector organisation I work for has anonymous annual surveys which ask staff if they feel that they are bullied and harassed in anyway and whether by peers or line managers. It also asks for feedback on the quality of line management and communication from senior management.

As a result of feedback, there is a respect agenda in place and stronger emphasis on fairness at work with regular updates on this, there were changes to communication processes from the senior management team which widened and deepened the channels which made them come across as less remote and made it clearer about the initiatives they are working on. Also, a training programme is in place to improve management and leadership skills in line managers.

Looks like some of the stats around bullying, communication and happiness at work are improving.

Personally, I don't think anyone in my organisation at any level would get away with raising their voice to anyone without being challenged about it, nor make a disrespectful remark in any capacity. So I do believe there are companies that ensure that bullying cannot flourish and are systematic about creating a better environment in which to work.

I am still leaving the organisation because I find working at my current level utterly suffocating due to the low levels of responsibility. The public sector is a very hierarchical organisation so I am treated as if I am as thick as mince, albeit in a respectful and non bullying way. For example, I am considered too low a grade to answer a phone and even had an unattended one virtually wrestled out of my hands when I had the temerity to use my initiative to answer it.

This compares to jobs that I've had in the past where the bullying and humiliation of staff was routine and where any reports of bullying to management would have backfired on the affected party.

glentoran99

xapprenticex wrote: »

provide examples that are covered , even hypothetical situations that dont involve protected characteristics .

IMO All bullying is covered by existing laws,


Your saying bullying can occur that doesn't fall into the law, I believe that situation doesn't exist,


If you think it does surely its easy to give an example.


Surely its not that hard?? Physical assault- bullying - gross misconduct regardless of characteristics of the people involved


your turn, give me an example of something that wouldn't be covered?

glentoran99

ohreally wrote: »

What law are you stating covers bullying?

I'm not saying what your stating, the web site I quoted for your information is explicit on this, going a stage further, you cannot take a complaint of bullying to an employment tribunal for this reason (its outwith their jurisdiction).

The only way forward may be to make a complaint to police under PFH legislation.

http://www.personneltoday.com/hr/legal-qa-the-protection-from-harassment-act-1997/

depends on the exact situation, and im struggling to find any situation, and no-one can give me one were the actions of the perpertrator of the bullying wouldn't fall foul of existing laws,