Can any Good Ever come of Reporting Bullying?

Cotta

With reference to the workforce I've never seen any bullying cases end well. Either the person making the case usually against a Manager etc leaves or the case is dismissed and then they have to go on working with their Manager is a more extreme situation.

Is it a sensible decision to report bullying? I have never seen anything positive come from it.

xapprenticex

depends on type of organisation, size and how professional they are, youre wasting your time at warehouse type places for example.

may be best to stand up for yourself.

andygb

xapprenticex wrote: »

depends on type of organisation, size and how professional they are, youre wasting your time at warehouse type places for example.

may be best to stand up for yourself.

I agree.
You also need witnesses and to keep a daily record of what happens.
It also helps if you are in a union.
I was being bullied in a large company many years ago.
Fortunately they had a good HR department with set procedures.
In my case, it started off with bullying, constant criticism and then humiliation in front of others.
However, the stupid boss then tried to fit me up, saying that I had breached the rules - which I hadn't.
He then got them to arrange a disciplinary meeting, where I was accompanied by another senior member of staff (who didn't like my boss).
All the accusations against me were dismissed, and although my boss said that he couldn't work with me again or trust me, he had to do both for the next four years:D

Tigsteroonie

Doesn't seem to work in a large, office based organisation with policies supposedly against this ... I know of at least four people who have raised a grievance against one particular bully. All of them felt as though senior managers and HR were completely unhelpful (the bully was friends with the senior managers), and have ended up finding alternate jobs themselves to get out of the situation.

Takeaway_Addict

Cotta wrote: »

With reference to the workforce I've never seen any bullying cases end well. Either the person making the case usually against a Manager etc leaves or the case is dismissed and then they have to go on working with their Manager is a more extreme situation.

Is it a sensible decision to report bullying? I have never seen anything positive come from it.

The accuser of bullying also needs to be realistic that it is just the first stage of the process and as mentioned you need evidence otherwise it just becomes a paperwork job for the company and one's word against anothers.

xapprenticex

ultimately, there is no law against bullying in the work place, usually boils down to bully being friends with certain people and getting away with it, as long as the bully only bullies those lower than him in position.

Thats why its usually not a good idea to be TOOOO nice in the workplace because you WILL get people taking it for weakness and using you to prop themselves up.

glentoran99

xapprenticex wrote: »

ultimately, there is no law against bullying in the work place, usually boils down to bully being friends with certain people and getting away with it, as long as the bully only bullies those lower than him in position.

Thats why its usually not a good idea to be TOOOO nice in the workplace because you WILL get people taking it for weakness and using you to prop themselves up.

Well that's nonsense.

sangie595

glentoran99 wrote: »

Well that's nonsense.

In that case, could you please specify which law makes workplace bullying illegal? Or even which law specifies what bullying in the workplace is? There's shed loads of policies and guidance, but bullying is in the eye of the beholder - what one person claims is bullying another doesn't. And that is why there is no direct law relating to bullying in the workplace - it may fall under other provisions like health and safety, but because it is an indirect relationship it is often almost impossible to make a legal case.

Harassment is the only aspect that is unlawful in the workplace, and only relates to protected characteristics within the terms of the Equality Act 2010.

glentoran99

sangie595 wrote: »

In that case, could you please specify which law makes workplace bullying illegal? Or even which law specifies what bullying in the workplace is? There's shed loads of policies and guidance, but bullying is in the eye of the beholder - what one person claims is bullying another doesn't. And that is why there is no direct law relating to bullying in the workplace - it may fall under other provisions like health and safety, but because it is an indirect relationship it is often almost impossible to make a legal case.

Harassment is the only aspect that is unlawful in the workplace, and only relates to protected characteristics within the terms of the Equality Act 2010.

Bullying may be characterised as
[FONT=Helvetica 45 Light,Helvetica 45 Light][FONT=Helvetica 45 Light,Helvetica 45 Light]Offensive, intimidating, malicious or insulting behaviour, an abuse or misuse of power through means that undermine, humiliate, denigrate or injure the recipient.[/FONT][/FONT]


There may not be a direct law that says "bullying is bad" but there are enough provisions in the equalitys act you quote an other workplace laws that mean it is illegal and action can be taken


Im struggling to think of an example that wouldn't be covered under existing laws, perhaps you can help?

ohreally

glentoran99 wrote: »

Well that's nonsense.

Bulling isn't against the law.


Ref:https://www.gov.uk/workplace-bullying-and-harassment

Bullying itself isn’t against the law, but harassment is. This is when the unwanted behaviour is related to one of the following:
age
sex
disability
gender (including gender reassignment)
marriage and civil partnership
pregnancy and maternity
race
religion or belief
sexual orientation

glentoran99

ohreally wrote: »

Bulling isn't against the law.

as I asked the previous poster, give me an example of bullying that wouldn't be against the law?