Budget tyres or Premium tyres?

Norman_Castle

jeepjunkie wrote: »

I may be wrong but can I add to that?

Tyres do part of the job but what about thinks like Electronic stability control, traction control, LSDs, diff locks on 4x4s etc.

Previous cars have had one or more of the above but my current daily has none of that, VW Fox, and is very noticeable in poor conditions like ice/snow. Good winter tyres help stop one wheel spinning madly but could really do with something clever to assist traction.

Agreed it all starts with good tyres

My current car is the first I've owned with abs and traction control. Previous cars (and motorbikes) have had none of the above and have used cheap tyres without any real problem. It all starts with good driving.

My car has genuine Goodride M+S tyres on the back. Can't remember whats on the front. Amazingly the car goes where I point it.

wrightk

Tyres are just one piece in a cars stopping/grip capability IMO. You could have the most expensive tyres on a car with shot brake pads, no abs/traction control, and they still wouldn't fare as well as some budgets on a well maintained car.

Part worn market has increased rapidly over the years too. Some may say its dodgy/dangerous. My local part worn place has cars queing onto the road every single day. Whats better a new budget or a part worn pirelli/goodyear

Personally, could only ever new manage budgets/midrange. Never had a problem with grip or stopping. Have also used part worns before and they've all been good quality ones. The fitter knows his stuff and can spot a dodgy one a mile off. Not the usual 'ditchfinder' death trap ones most people say.

My current car manufacturer recommends budgets due to ridiculous wear on premium tyres

takman

wrightk wrote: »

please- no more fuel debates

Don't worry there is no debate I've had this confirmed in writing directly from shell:

"Shell FuelSave Regular Unleaded and Diesel, formulated with Shell Efficiency Improvers, have been specifically designed to save fuel from the very first fill at Regular fuel prices. Regardless of the fact that all oil companies fill up at the same refineries, the formulations of Shell FuelSave fuels are exclusive to Shell and only Shell customers can benefit from the fuels."

wrightk

takman wrote: »

Don't worry there is no debate I've had this confirmed in writing directly from shell:

"Shell FuelSave Regular Unleaded and Diesel, formulated with Shell Efficiency Improvers, have been specifically designed to save fuel from the very first fill at Regular fuel prices. Regardless of the fact that all oil companies fill up at the same refineries, the formulations of Shell FuelSave fuels are exclusive to Shell and only Shell customers can benefit from the fuels."

Wouldn't expect shell to say anything less about a shell product

Joe_Horner

wrightk wrote: »

Wouldn't expect shell to say anything less about a shell product

Don't encourage him. next it'll be pointing out how the supermarkets can only do the stuff so cheap by leaving out all these expensive additive packages.

Then (apparently straight faced), asking why bother with supermarket fuel because the local BP / Shell / Esso always price match the supermarkets anyway. Thereby invalidating their earlier claims about the "expensive additive packages". :rotfl:

Snake oil has always been a good seller, and those who buy it are usually willing to swear blind that it works for them

takman

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Don't encourage him. next it'll be pointing out how the supermarkets can only do the stuff so cheap by leaving out all these expensive additive packages.

Then (apparently straight faced), asking why bother with supermarket fuel because the local BP / Shell / Esso always price match the supermarkets anyway. Thereby invalidating their earlier claims about the "expensive additive packages". :rotfl:

Snake oil has always been a good seller, and those who buy it are usually willing to swear blind that it works for them

Haha, actually what I was trying to show was that it all comes from the same place so there is no difference. That's why I highlighted the bit where they agreed it is all from the same refineries.
I fill up my car with bulk diesel direct from the refinery so I'm definitely not a snake oil kind of guy :rotfl:

reeac

wrightk wrote: »

Tyres are just one piece in a cars stopping/grip capability IMO. You could have the most expensive tyres on a car with shot brake pads, no abs/traction control, and they still wouldn't fare as well as some budgets on a well maintained car.

Part worn market has increased rapidly over the years too. Some may say its dodgy/dangerous.

Indeed. You could say that all motoring is done on part-worn tyres.

Kevan_Hughes

Budget tyres do stop you in less than the stopping/braking distances recommended by the Highway Code. You just need to keep a decent distance behind the vehicle in front - Remember: ONLY A FOOL BREAKS THE 2 SECOND RULE! This should be doubled to 4 seconds in rain or 10 seconds in torrential rain.

Iceweasel

Kevan_Hughes wrote: »

Budget tyres do stop you in less than the stopping/braking distances recommended by the Highway Code.

Good luck with that Kevan.

Ebe_Scrooge

Kevan_Hughes wrote: »

Budget tyres do stop you in less than the stopping/braking distances recommended by the Highway Code. You just need to keep a decent distance behind the vehicle in front - Remember: ONLY A FOOL BREAKS THE 2 SECOND RULE! This should be doubled to 4 seconds in rain or 10 seconds in torrential rain.

How very odd. A new user registers to resurrect a two-year-old thread - yet there's no overtly obvious spamming or advertising of his own website thus far. Hmmm, we shall wait and see ........