If we vote for Brexit what happens

kabayiri

gfplux wrote: »

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"The Liberal Democrats claimed that as well as the large cost, the process may require another 3,000 Home Office staff, while academic experts suggest it would be a "formidable task" that could amount to the equivalent of 140 years of extra work."

Do you not think that these experts just do some rough calcs on the back of a fag packet, and make a lot of it up?

Imagine an alternate world, where today you asked them to construct something called the "EU".

Those same experts would blow out their cheeks, talk about half a million staff, and 4 billion extra man hours, and how it all couldn't be done.

CLAPTON

gfplux wrote: »

It's either documents or leave, but how long do you wait for the documents.
Lots of fun from Amber Rudd
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/home-secretary-amber-rudd-3-million-id-after-brexit-100m-a7458081.html
Did she actually say this or is it a journalists guess.

"Three million EU citizens living in Britain will be required to have some form of documentation following Brexit, under a plan that could hit Government finances for £100m."

Cheap at half the price.

But what about the +60 million un documented British citizens. That's just speculation
Please don't laugh.

"The Liberal Democrats claimed that as well as the large cost, the process may require another 3,000 Home Office staff, while academic experts suggest it would be a "formidable task" that could amount to the equivalent of 140 years of extra work."

Frankly don't you think that Government Ministers should stop making these statements (or journalist making them up) The Governments position was clear (as mud) "We will not be giving a running commentary"

I believe that most of the EU countries keep documentation on the people that live in their countries : do you know what the costs are and how many staff they have to have.
Do they find it a 'formidable' task?
Presumably isn't only reprehensible if the UK does it but totally commendable if the countries of the EU do it.

mayonnaise

gfplux wrote: »

But what about the +60 million un documented British citizens.

I suppose British citizens will need ID cards also to prove they're not ghastly EU-ers.

CLAPTON

mayonnaise wrote: »

I suppose British citizens will need ID cards also to prove they're not ghastly EU-ers.

it can be 'sold' to the Clegggs and other remainers etc as a very european thing to do.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

A poll of economists (no sniggering please) today says:

Britain will most likely leave the European Union having signed a bilateral trade agreement, according to a Reuters poll of economists on Tuesday that also suggested there remains little chance of the country slipping into recession.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-boe-policy-poll-idUKKBN13V1MJ


Meanwhile Spain plans to raise taxes in order to meet EU budgetary stipulations:

Spain raises tax on fags, booze and sugary drinks in pledge to meet EU deficit target

http://www.thelocal.es/20161205/spain-raises-tax-on-fags-booze-and-sugar-drinks-in-pledge-to-meet-eu-deficit-target

Conrad

$38 Billion Finnish Fund Moves Assets to U.S. as Europe Founders

http://www.bloombergquint.com/markets/2016/12/04/-38-billion-finnish-fund-moves-assets-to-u-s-as-europe-founders

setmefree2

Liam Fox opens talks with WTO over terms of membership

UK will need its own schedule of commitments after Brexit

In a move that sets the scene for two years of intense negotiation with the 164-member body, the International Trade Secretary said the UK would seek to replicate as far as possible its current obligations to the WTO.

Whitehall officials say Mr Fox’s announcement is an essential part of the process of leaving the EU. They said it does not presage the outcome of the eventual UK-EU trade arrangements or have any bearing on whether the UK leaves Europe’s customs union.
“This is necessary and beginning this process now will minimise any disruption,” said an official at the Department for International Trade. “This is preparatory work we are required to undertake. We are aiming to have the schedules in place when we leave. We want to provide a degree of certainty.”

In order to prepare for the challenge ahead, Mr Fox has gone on a charm offensive in Geneva, visiting the WTO twice since taking office and last week throwing a cocktail party for WTO ambassadors. “They may not have any trade negotiators but they have a lot of very smooth diplomats,” said one senior trade official in Geneva.
There is good will towards the UK because of its pledge to be more open to trade than the EU. “There is no vitriol, none of this jilted lover syndrome, here,” said a senior official in Geneva, referring to the anguished state of UK-EU relations. “This is about commercial transactions.”

The process is also likely to be complex and take time. Copying and pasting the EU’s current tariff schedule for industrial goods should be a relatively simple process with few WTO members likely to object.
But things are likely to get more complicated with regard to agricultural products and particularly unwinding or distributing the complex system of “tariff rate quotas” that currently govern imports of farm products into the EU. Under that system tariffs rise in steps along with the volume of imports.

https://www.ft.com/content/97d1c8ce-bb0b-11e6-8b45-b8b81dd5d080

Mortgagefreeman

From your original post, from nearly a year ago.

gfplux wrote: »

Can you imagine the chaos if at midnight of referendum day it is announced we are leaving the EU but "we have yet to work out how we do it!"
Will you buy a new house during the run up to the vote.
Would you put your house/flat on the market during the run up to the vote.
Would you book your European holiday during the run up to the vote.
Etc, etc, etc.

You seemed to predict 'chaos' if we choose BREXIT. I haven't seen any.House prices seem to still be rising, and although foreign holidays may cost a little more, it dosn't seem to have stoppped people booking them.

You seem to be in the glass half empty camp, along with the other (usual) suspects!

Mortgagefreeman

mayonnaise wrote: »

I suppose British citizens will need ID cards also to prove they're not ghastly EU-ers.

mayonnaise wrote: »

I accept the result and will move on.

Yes indeed.

Ballard

Conrad wrote: »

$38 Billion Finnish Fund Moves Assets to U.S. as Europe Founders

http://www.bloombergquint.com/markets/2016/12/04/-38-billion-finnish-fund-moves-assets-to-u-s-as-europe-founders

It would be interesting to know why they didn't move the funds to London.