If we vote for Brexit what happens

StevieJ

setmefree2 wrote: »

Not at all.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32061822

But support for Brexit was below 50% in the polls.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

MobileSaver wrote: »

You are joking, yes?!?! It's the Brexiteers who are jumping on every little thing (such as the Nissan announcement) as proof that Brexit was the right choice even though it will be at least two years before Brexit occurs... you couldn't make it up!

And yet it appears that you have!

That is not what the evidence is demonstrating so far.
Remain camp = Project Fear = unfounded and based upon prophecy.
Media, politicos and forumites all preaching doom and gloom based upon nothing but theory.
The reaction by leave camp is actual facts and figures so far.
Note "so far".

No doubt two years hence you will be saying along the lines of "Ah yes well, but if ....." .

Herzlos

setmefree2 wrote: »

It wasn't about returning sovereignty to politicians (in the UK parliament) - it was about returning sovereignty to the British people.

So what gain in sovereignty are the British people getting? We're getting no say in what Brexit will look like. Hell we're not even going to be told what it is until it's done.

mayonnaise

MobileSaver wrote: »

You are joking, yes?!?! It's the Brexiteers who are jumping on every little thing (such as the Nissan announcement) as proof that Brexit was the right choice even though it will be at least two years before Brexit occurs... you couldn't make it up!

You can.
Positive economic indices years before Brexit are a sign of success for the post-Brexit economy.
And the fact that Nissan stays, after getting undisclosed commitments from the government to shield them from the negative impact of Brexit......is another sign of Brexit awesomeness. :rotfl:

Conrad

Moby wrote: »

Taken from:-
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/ on 24/10/16 re. the cross section of how the public split re. their voting pattern:-

'The relevance for Brexit polling is that there was a strong correlation between educational qualification and how people voted. Even within age cohorts, graduates were more likely to vote to Remain, people with few or no educational qualifications were more likely to vote to Leave. People with a low level of interest in politics were also more likely to vote to Leave.'

Think the north and the poor caused Brexit? Think again


Zoe Williams

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/07/north-poor-brexit-myths



The prevailing assumption is that the vote was one in the eye for metropolitan elites, and that the white working classes, the disenfranchised and unheeded, the voters hidden on estates, had finally given a message to the Westminster bubble that knew nothing and cared less about their concerns. In fact, most leave voters were in the south: the south-east, south-west – indeed the entire south apart from London voted leave.


Furthermore, most leave voters are middle class, or at least were of the generation whose housing and pension windfalls put them squarely in the category of wealth.

MobileSaver

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

The reaction by leave camp is actual facts and figures so far.

Yes, of course, actual facts and figures so far...



Remind me again how much extra we're giving to the NHS post-Brexit?

Oh, I remember now... "No extra money for NHS, Theresa May tells health chief"

Conrad

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-08/merkel-lawmaker-sees-flexibility-on-migration-in-brexit-bargain

A senior German politician in Merkel’s own party, Norbert Roettgen:

“Free movement of workers between EU member countries, the core element that drove the immigration debate in the U.K. before the exit referendum in June, is a political rather than an economic project and should be negotiable, Roettgen said.

Masomnia

Oh god not this again. It's only the remainers who are interested in the £350m... Apart from one dippy woman in the NE that some hacks at the Grauniad tracked down no one on the leave side voted leave for the NHS.

If I say to my pal 'Let's go to the pub' it doesn't mean we are definitely going to the pub, does it? It's a suggestion. Jeez.

Moby

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Demonstrating most admirably your bigotry yet again, by resorting to describing the majority of UK voters with such derogatory (and unfounded, I must add) terminology.

Feel free to emigrate to Germany (if they will have you - my friends and family there would be horified at the prospect TBH).
Auf Wiedersehen.

Just calling it as it is and actually it is well known which side the 'bigotry' was on......Farage's infamous poster and the murder of Jo Cox made that perfectly clear! look at the types in UKIP!
Never in the past I imagine has a paltry majority of 52% (of those who voted) been used to justify the indefensible. Hitler was swept into power with an even higher majority....probably based on fewer lies and misunderstandings...:rotfl:..but I'm sure they were all morally upstanding righteous individuals!

Moby

Conrad wrote: »

Think the north and the poor caused Brexit? Think again


Zoe Williams

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/07/north-poor-brexit-myths



The prevailing assumption is that the vote was one in the eye for metropolitan elites, and that the white working classes, the disenfranchised and unheeded, the voters hidden on estates, had finally given a message to the Westminster bubble that knew nothing and cared less about their concerns. In fact, most leave voters were in the south: the south-east, south-west – indeed the entire south apart from London voted leave.


Furthermore, most leave voters are middle class, or at least were of the generation whose housing and pension windfalls put them squarely in the category of wealth.

Zoe Williams is a commentator. I used actual polling evidence....there is a difference!