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  • jimbog
    jimbog Posts: 2,299 Forumite
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    Senny1986 wrote: »
    The planning permission for the conversation of the car port into a garage with 2 doors was approved early 2006

    My question was actually if your neighbour had ever applied for double doors and had that declined
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  • No he hadn't. There's no planning permission on his property
  • Senny1986 wrote: »
    I don't believe it's a right of way. How would I check this?
    Rights of way are usually noted in the deeds, yours or your neighbours depending.
    They can be downloaded from about £3.
    https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/copies-of-deeds

    (Ensure you download from a .gov.uk site.)
  • Doozergirl
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    edited 2 January 2016 at 2:39PM
    The type of door used is not a material planning consideration unless the house is listed. The fact that it had a car port makes me think that the house is not listed?

    They can contact the council. They will not be interested. The limitation for enforcement is four years (as long as it isn't a listed building) but as I said, it is not a material consideration and would have been of no consequence to the initial permission.

    Your new neighbours sound interesting. Good luck with them :(

    edit: I just read your post to my husband and he used a different word to describe your neighbours.
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  • David

    Depending on your location and Council but yes that does not meet planning and yes they can make you revert to the plans.

    Id contact the Council and make a retrospective application if allowed.
  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    edited 2 January 2016 at 6:32PM
    Senny1986 wrote: »
    The people who have a garage opposite ours have complained to us yesterday that it doesn't meet the planning permission and he'll contact the council. Should I be worried??

    When people fail in persuading others through blackmail, they may resort to some kind of direct action, so I'd be slightly concerned and vigilant, rather than worried.

    An interesting response above. As we are supposed to be kind to newbies, I'll just say that I'd listen to Doozer, as she has a somewhat stronger track record.
    certainly the odd bottle of wine a day will not harm you!
  • patman99
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    Whether it does or does not meet planning permission is now of no interest.
    The Council would have only 4 years in which to spot and enforce a breach a planning breach (unless involving a listed property), so they do not have the power to make the op change the door to 2 singles any more.

    If it were me, I'd politely inform the neighbour that complaining to the Council is pointless as 4 years have passed sinced since construction was completed. Therefore his complaint could not be acted upon.
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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Development becomes immune from enforcement if no action is taken:
    • Within four years of substantial completion for a breach of planning control consisting of operational development;
    • Within four years for an unauthorised change of use to a single dwellinghouse;
    • Within ten years for any other breach of planning control (essentially other changes of use).
    These time limits are set out in section 171B of the Town and Country Planning Act 1990.

    What exactly did you mean by:
    It's common land. Though everyone parks on the space in front of there garage which is why I did it.
    ?

    do you really mean 'common land' (a very specific catagory), or public highway? Or owned by someone (who?) but adopted as highway?

    You may or may not be permitted to park there. You may or may not be causing an obstruction. You may or may not be commiting a civil trespass.
  • On the council website it shows up as yellow and can't find out who owns it. 'Common land' is what the neighbour quoted to Mr.
  • The neighbour's real issue has nothing to do with the garage doors; that's a sysmptom of his annoyance at the change in his parking/manoevering arrangements since your arrival.

    It can be irritating if someone parks in a way that forces you to change your habits even if you have no real right to preserved arrangements; new arrivals are always viewed with suspicion by locals especially to decide if the newbie is, in their opinion, a nuisance causing interloper.

    Your options seem to be to acknowledge a longstanding arrangement and move your car as soon as you can or to not give a damn what he thinks.

    The quiet life option may make you feel subservient; a 2-fingered attitude will almost certainly mean continuing neighbour disputes.

    It's a rock and a hard place :).
    Mornië utulië
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