Sign the Petition for Womens state pension age going up unfair

Goldiegirl

slightlymiffed wrote: »

I don't think you are being unkind Goldiegirl and I have to agree with you to some degree but we are where we are and some of these women clearly need help.

What does astonish me is the apparent lack of empathy among so many here. Does it not make you uneasy at all because you seem to be far more measured and 'human'?

Well, I've never been described as measured before, but I like to think of myself as human!

But, no, I'm not uneasy, as I believe all posters on this board would empathise with an individual who is in difficulties, and would try to help them.

But I also understand that people can be robust with their comments about the WASPI situation in general, rather than individual cases.

mystic_trev

slightlymiffed wrote: »

Like your turn of phrase 'banging on' - shows real humanity to those women, two of whom are clearly unwell.

Three if you include yourself.

Pennylane

slightlymiffed wrote: »

You may come to regret posting this Pennylane - get your hard hat!

:rotfl: face ..... Boverred, face ..... :rotfl:

Couldn't give a stuff slightlymiffed. :T

Some people just don't believe what many of us know to be true, that we didn't receive letters warning about this. Had I not requested a pension forecast I would never have found out about all this. I happened to turn on the radio one day and heard a programme about pensions and saying how straightforward it was to get a pension forecast.

I have lived in this house for over 20 years so the pensions people would have found me had they bothered to write. They have however admitted they did not notify women properly, so that's something.

missbiggles1

Pennylane wrote: »

:rotfl: face ..... Boverred, face ..... :rotfl:

Couldn't give a stuff slightlymiffed. :T

Some people just don't believe what many of us know to be true, that we didn't receive letters warning about this. Had I not requested a pension forecast I would never have found out about all this. I happened to turn on the radio one day and heard a programme about pensions and saying how straightforward it was to get a pension forecast.

I have lived in this house for over 20 years so the pensions people would have found me had they bothered to write. They have however admitted they did not notify women properly, so that's something.

Nobody disbelieves this and the fact that you think this is the issue shows how out of touch you are with the issue. People aren't individually informed about benefit changes and never have been - information is spread by both the print and visual media and this was certainly done in this case.

As someone has already said, you'd have to have been living under a stone to have missed it.

Pollycat

slightlymiffed wrote: »

Well, as I don't know you from Adam, Pollycat - and this is a public forum, I'll choose not to share that information but I can tell you that I have taken every opportunity to warn anyone I felt might not know, about state pension age changes.

And thank you for the drama queen compliment - I like it.

So I guess you haven't done anything to help less financially astute women.

Why does that not surprise me.

Pennylane

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Nobody disbelieves this and the fact that you think this is the issue shows how out of touch you are with the issue. People aren't individually informed about benefit changes and never have been - information is spread by both the print and visual media and this was certainly done in this case.

As someone has already said, you'd have to have been living under a stone to have missed it.

ITs NOT a BENEFIT !!!!!!!!!!!

Goldiegirl

Pennylane wrote: »

:rotfl: face ..... Boverred, face ..... :rotfl:

Couldn't give a stuff slightlymiffed. :T

Some people just don't believe what many of us know to be true, that we didn't receive letters warning about this. Had I not requested a pension forecast I would never have found out about all this. I happened to turn on the radio one day and heard a programme about pensions and saying how straightforward it was to get a pension forecast.

I have lived in this house for over 20 years so the pensions people would have found me had they bothered to write. They have however admitted they did not notify women properly, so that's something.

I don't doubt that some people didn't get a letter.

But I find iit difficult to believe that people didn't know anything about these changes until a couple of years before they retired. The Information was freely available in 1995, and you didn't have to look hard for it - it was in the papers and on the news

As Missbiggles says, we aren't routinely individually advised of changes in benefits and pensions - the onus is on us to keep ourselves, as adults, informed about events that affect us.

missbiggles1

Pennylane wrote: »

ITs NOT a BENEFIT !!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry you don't understand this but actually, it is.

What would you call it?

atush

slightlymiffed wrote: »

Saver - Poor Jem is clearly obsessed with WASPI and is convinced that anyone daring to suggest that there is another view to her own, is a Child of the Devil - aka a WASPI!

I could suggest that anyone with an anti-WASPI viewpoint is a 'detractor' but that would not be any more accurate than her repeated accusations.

You are such a numpty. And could not be more wrong.

bmm78

Pennylane wrote: »

ITs NOT a BENEFIT !!!!!!!!!!!

The State Pension has been classed as a "benefit" under law from the time of the 1946 National Insurance Act, which saw the inception of the NI scheme.

The definition of the State Pension as a benefit has been consistent throughout its legislative history, such as the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 and right through to the Pensions Act 2014.

People may not like to think of it as a benefit for various reasons. It may indeed "drive people up the wall" to do so as the former Pensions Minister put it. However, the State Pension most assuredly is a benefit.

Many people have latched onto the headlines linked to Steve Webb's statements in 2014 as "evidence" that the State Pension is not a benefit. Feeding journos with good copy isn't actually how we overturn laws in this country, strangely enough.