Being evicted from sublet (which could prevent major essential surgery)

avoidingeviction

Just as an update to this sorry episode...

- we wrote to the external landlord to let them know what was going on. He (a) offered to kick out the live-in landlords and rent it to us instead - but he wanted more than we could afford, wouldn't want us to sublet (he had never been keen on it happening in the first place, but had acquiesced), and the live-in landlords would be vile in the meantime and (b) made it clear that he would not allow the live-in landlords to evict us when I was in hospital

- we found a suitable flat that was just about within budget (and kept schtum about it)

- we wrote to the live-in landlords to say that they had not complied with their (unspecified) legal obligations, and that we were considering taking the external landlord up on his offer to evict them and have us stay (we weren't, but they weren't to know that). We then said that if they (a) coughed up the difference between that room and a 1 bed flat for 2 months, (b) refunded the unused portion of January's rent, then we would do everything we could to find a new flat before the end of the notice period, but if they didn't pay / we couldn't find anywhere in time, we would have to stay put until after I had recovered from surgery.

- amazingly, they paid up in full, without even trying to negotiate us down (we were shocked - we think the external landlord told them to pay up!). It was a total of about £1400.

- we moved out into our new flat

- I had surgery

Altogether, quite successful and an excellent example of don't ask, don't get!

When_the_going_gets_tough

I imagine they felt it was a price worth paying.

Pixie5740

I'm glad it all worked out in the end but I'm unconvinced that your landlord's landlord understands how lodgers work as you were lodgers, not sub-tenants. Your contract was with your landlord, not theirs. As lodgers they could (legally) have you evicted from the property very easily and very quickly. Their landlord would have no say in this. You would have been out there long before their landlord could (legally) evict them as that would take months at best.

[Deleted User]

While I am against illegal subletting, its seems to me that you are just as bad as them. And that's nothing to be proud of. All you needed to do was move. It sounds like the LL gave permission anyway so it probably wasn't illegal. What you did and what the LL proposed was more than a bit iffy.

Oh well, I guess the ex 'LL' helped finance your move rather than long haul holidays.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

If I had behaved like you have, I would want to keep it quiet, not brag about it.

Poppie68

avoidingeviction wrote: »

Just as an update to this sorry episode...

- we wrote to the external landlord to let them know what was going on. He (a) offered to kick out the live-in landlords and rent it to us instead - but he wanted more than we could afford, wouldn't want us to sublet (he had never been keen on it happening in the first place, but had acquiesced), and the live-in landlords would be vile in the meantime and (b) made it clear that he would not allow the live-in landlords to evict us when I was in hospital

- we found a suitable flat that was just about within budget (and kept schtum about it)

- we wrote to the live-in landlords to say that they had not complied with their (unspecified) legal obligations, and that we were considering taking the external landlord up on his offer to evict them and have us stay (we weren't, but they weren't to know that). We then said that if they (a) coughed up the difference between that room and a 1 bed flat for 2 months, (b) refunded the unused portion of January's rent, then we would do everything we could to find a new flat before the end of the notice period, but if they didn't pay / we couldn't find anywhere in time, we would have to stay put until after I had recovered from surgery.

- amazingly, they paid up in full, without even trying to negotiate us down (we were shocked - we think the external landlord told them to pay up!). It was a total of about £1400.

- we moved out into our new flat

- I had surgery

Altogether, quite successful and an excellent example of don't ask, don't get!

Sounds like they just wanted to get rid of a couple of trouble makers....I pity your new landlord.

Nobbie1967

avoidingeviction wrote: »

Just as an update to this sorry episode...

- we wrote to the external landlord to let them know what was going on. He (a) offered to kick out the live-in landlords and rent it to us instead - but he wanted more than we could afford, wouldn't want us to sublet (he had never been keen on it happening in the first place, but had acquiesced), and the live-in landlords would be vile in the meantime and (b) made it clear that he would not allow the live-in landlords to evict us when I was in hospital

- we found a suitable flat that was just about within budget (and kept schtum about it)

- we wrote to the live-in landlords to say that they had not complied with their (unspecified) legal obligations, and that we were considering taking the external landlord up on his offer to evict them and have us stay (we weren't, but they weren't to know that). We then said that if they (a) coughed up the difference between that room and a 1 bed flat for 2 months, (b) refunded the unused portion of January's rent, then we would do everything we could to find a new flat before the end of the notice period, but if they didn't pay / we couldn't find anywhere in time, we would have to stay put until after I had recovered from surgery.

- amazingly, they paid up in full, without even trying to negotiate us down (we were shocked - we think the external landlord told them to pay up!). It was a total of about £1400.

- we moved out into our new flat

- I had surgery

Altogether, quite successful and an excellent example of don't ask, don't get!

Or an excellent example of blackmail. Do you see the irony in threatening to get them evicted, after whining on here about being evicted? At least they've got rid of you now, maybe the £1400 was worth it.

Person_one

avoidingeviction wrote: »

Just as an update to this sorry episode...

- we wrote to the external landlord to let them know what was going on. He (a) offered to kick out the live-in landlords and rent it to us instead - but he wanted more than we could afford, wouldn't want us to sublet (he had never been keen on it happening in the first place, but had acquiesced), and the live-in landlords would be vile in the meantime and (b) made it clear that he would not allow the live-in landlords to evict us when I was in hospital

- we found a suitable flat that was just about within budget (and kept schtum about it)

- we wrote to the live-in landlords to say that they had not complied with their (unspecified) legal obligations, and that we were considering taking the external landlord up on his offer to evict them and have us stay (we weren't, but they weren't to know that). We then said that if they (a) coughed up the difference between that room and a 1 bed flat for 2 months, (b) refunded the unused portion of January's rent, then we would do everything we could to find a new flat before the end of the notice period, but if they didn't pay / we couldn't find anywhere in time, we would have to stay put until after I had recovered from surgery.

- amazingly, they paid up in full, without even trying to negotiate us down (we were shocked - we think the external landlord told them to pay up!). It was a total of about £1400.

- we moved out into our new flat

- I had surgery

Altogether, quite successful and an excellent example of don't ask, don't get!

So you threatened them (even though it was an empty threat) with eviction, threatened to squat in their home against their will (another empty threat) then conned them out of £1400 by lying to them about not having found anywhere else to live? These poor people must have been so stressed out. At least they've now got their home back I suppose, and they know their landlord is incompetent and unethical, if what you say is true.

I'm glad you were able to have your surgery and I do hope all goes well with your recovery, but really, there's no excuse at all for the way you've behaved. Please never consider a shared living situation again.

heuchera

Doesn't ring true to me.. why would the landlord offer to evict his tenants and take on the sub-tenants.


Letting really is a legal minefield, and sub-letting more so, which is probably why most landlords don't allow it.


If the OP's behaviour really is as described it sounds like a bit of a vendetta against the people they were living with, and who they'd fallen out with.

bobbymotors

Sounds like they are well rid of the OP to be quite honest.