Economy 7 Rates 1 & 2 - which is which?

Tatt00edk

Hi,

I've been with Utility warehouse for my electricity since November 2013 & I am a little confused by which is the day & which is the night reading on my electricity metre.

I though rate 1 was day - The higher of the 2 & Rate 2 was night but following a hike in our monthly budget plan from £89 to £170 per month because we are over £300 in debit with them.
When I started monitoring the usage, I noticed that rate 1 was active after midnight & rate 2 was active during the day!! This is the reverse of what I gave as my opening readings with them just over 2 years ago. Could someone confirm which is day & which is not

Kind Regards

Kevin

spiro

You should not confuse the 2 rates you pay with the 2 registers. The day rate will be the expensive one but which register that is will depend on how the meter details were set up when the meter was installed. Some MOPs labelled them 1 &2, 01 & 02, D & N DY & NT. The way to check which is which on the meter is to see which register is advancing around midday. You need to look at your reading history with your old supplier and new supplier. Because there isn't a national standard it's possible you new supplier set them up wrong on their billing system. If you think the new supplier got it wrong raise a complaint and specifically ask them to check the Time Pattern Regime (TPR) associated with the register ids in the meter technical details (D0150 data flow) as this identifies the switching times.

[Deleted User]

Rate 1 is the favourite for the day rate, but I see plenty of R 2 also used as day. As Spiro says check which one advances and at what hours as the timer switch can also vary especially if you have an old 24 hr timerswitch. The cheap 7 hours can be anywhere. Even a digital timer built in to the meter can drift an hour or two. Most but not all digital meters will show the active rate by a blinking cursor or reading.

footyguy

Tatt00edk wrote: »

Hi,

I've been with Utility warehouse for my electricity since November 2013 & I am a little confused by which is the day & which is the night reading on my electricity metre.

I though rate 1 was day - The higher of the 2 & Rate 2 was night but following a hike in our monthly budget plan from £89 to £170 per month because we are over £300 in debit with them.
When I started monitoring the usage, I noticed that rate 1 was active after midnight & rate 2 was active during the day!! This is the reverse of what I gave as my opening readings with them just over 2 years ago. Could someone confirm which is day & which is not

Kind Regards

Kevin

No one here can do that sorry. It depends on your meter.

Your normal (day) rate will be active 17 hours per day and your low rate will be active 7 hours per day.

Normally the low rate is active midnight to 7am, give or take a an hour per two either way (but never more than 7 hours total) ... and I think one region may even split that into two. But then again it can depend if the clock on your meter is correct (if you have one)

The meter may have an indication of what is normal rate and what is low rate, or sometimes it's the first one to be displayed that is the active registry (for meters that scroll though the details).

If you need more help, try posting some photos of what you have.

Catie

Question:
I have the mis-fortune to live in an all electric house. Economy 7 with night store heaters keeps me freezing cold when I need to be warm. I am both old and cold. Have insulation, low watt. bulbs, run appliances through the night etc. etc. I have switched suppliers each year in the past 4 years. However, I cannot manage to achieve less than £100 per month on energy bills. My big question is why does NO supplier offer the advantageous rates for single fuel that they do for dual fuel? Neighbour (exactly the same terraced property) who has gas pays exactly half my bills yet uses more fuel. I know because we compare bills.

spiro

Catie wrote: »

Question:
I have the mis-fortune to live in an all electric house. Economy 7 with night store heaters keeps me freezing cold when I need to be warm. I am both old and cold. Have insulation, low watt. bulbs, run appliances through the night etc. etc. I have switched suppliers each year in the past 4 years. However, I cannot manage to achieve less than £100 per month on energy bills. My big question is why does NO supplier offer the advantageous rates for single fuel that they do for dual fuel? Neighbour (exactly the same terraced property) who has gas pays exactly half my bills yet uses more fuel. I know because we compare bills.

What do you mean by "advantageous!rates"? In the past your neighbour will have paid to have gsh installed and is now benefiting. Gas is more controllable then storage heaters which helps reduce the cost as does using gas.