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Need a way to get rid of a fellow lodger anonymously

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  • booksurr wrote: »
    now the truth is finally revealed. Actually it is you who is making a mountain out of a mole hill because you struggle with your own demons.

    as has been said by others, only the LL can "get him out", you can't. GP's are not going to contact strangers on your say so.

    you have 2 choices/: ask the LL to evict him or move out yourself.

    Your post is unpleasant and unhelpful.

    About 20 years ago I rented a room in a house and one person, a physical fitness instructor, was aggressive and antisocial. I laughed when someone said he was aggressive. But when I asked him not to fill the kitchen surface with his items he started shouting at me, preventing my exit, and scaring me lots.

    To the OP: I suggest you talk to the others, and if all are agreed, talk to the landlord when nut job is not around. But bare in mind that nut job knows where you all live. Moving is the safer option. That was my choice.
  • I know, from previous experience, that there seem to be basically two ways in which people can be "sectioned" (ie made to go into suitable place for treatment):

    1. If they are a danger to themselves
    2. If they are a danger to other people.

    I used that thought to keep someone OUT of a mental home that didn't want to go in (ie I pleaded they weren't a danger to either themselves or anyone else). Therefore they shouldn't be made to go into one forcibly - as they clearly didn't want to. I was listened to and they weren't put in one.

    In your position - it sounds like they fit the second criteria (ie danger to other people). So contact Mind and say this and ask what procedure should be followed now about this.
  • G_M
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    Your second post above adds little.

    You go on at length, again, about this individuals alleged rants etc, but you do not respond to the suggestions made here.

    In particular, you do not explain why the LL is doing nothing, except to say:
    ......about talking to Landlord, he is more than likely in not just my opinion. But others as well that he's scared of him

    OK - so the LL is scared. But I repeat:
    Only the LL can evict, so talk to the LL and give him some support, encouragement, confidence.

    Otherwise, if the landlord is willing to share his home with this lodger and continue living there, then you should either leave yourself, or do as the landlord is doing and put up with the inconvenience.
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    CrimRain wrote: »
    As I've stated before to those about talking to Landlord, he is more than likely in not just my opinion. But others as well that he's scared of him due to all his talk of being in rough areas and prison so many years ago, an the fact he's had random rage outbursts in his room then stomping downstairs and going out, coming back then stomping up again an then screaming and I've heard him punching stuff before as well.

    I just don't want it to get to a point where he gets so unruly he starts dictating the landlord because he's actually a really good person the landlord, plus the fact with all the talk of the religious stuff and the fact none of us bar one other lodger has admitted to being a Christian I don't fancy my head being sacrificed just incase he thinks the rest of us worship the devil, can more than happily be as religious as he wants, but when it starts getting to point where he's calling himself "a soldier of christ" then that's wayyyyy up the cuckoo tree.

    Not just that but after using a dummy facebook I made I've found him on facebook where he makes videos, trying to say he knows all this information about what the government is up to hiding aliens, hearing trumpets in the sky, the blood red moons were gonna end the world, the cia once tried recruiting him, the illuminati is aware of his presence, he is literally Grade A screwed up upstairs, I seriously think his own family knows it because they keep making plans to visit him here or he tries making them to visit wherever they are and they always give it a while and phone back and chage their mind.

    Lmao at Kinger

    I'll look into this Mind thing because I want it done the right way, unlike the nutty batcase that claims to have anxiety and depression I ACTUALLY do have anxiety and depression so I know mental health sucks So i would like to get him help asap

    Your fellow lodger appears to have a mental health condition. You have a mental health condition. Do you think it kind or fair to refer to him as a "nutty batcase"? Would you like it if someone called you a nutty batcase because of your mental health problems?
  • kinger101
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    The best thing you can do really is find somewhere else to live. If you are currently lodging, I doubt your notice period will be long. As unusual as his behaviour is, I don't think any of us are qualified to say whether he has a mental illness or is a danger to himself or others.

    Believing in things that are absolute nonsense probably doesn't qualify you as insane. Afterall, today lots of people are celebrating the birthday of a fictional character who did magic tricks with fish and bread.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 26 December 2015 at 8:15AM
    tomtontom wrote: »
    Your fellow lodger appears to have a mental health condition. You have a mental health condition. Do you think it kind or fair to refer to him as a "nutty batcase"? Would you like it if someone called you a nutty batcase because of your mental health problems?

    That is not a fair comment imo.

    There are people with mental health problems on the one hand. There are people with "anxiety and depression" on the other hand. I would think that most of us count the two things as totally separate. The lodger has mental health problems. OP has "anxiety and depression".

    "Anxiety and depression" is an emotional state and probably temporary. Mental health problems are a totally different kettle of fish and something the person concerned has permanently and quite likely do cause the person concerned to act irrationally (which this lodger certainly is).

    I don't think it either accurate or fair to classify someone with a longstanding mood that has been classed as "anxiety and depression" in anything like the same category as someone who has an illness called "mental health problems (of whatever nature)".

    I've known someone for some time that has been officially pronounced as having "anxiety and depression". They have a very low mood and worry themselves unnecessarily about small things - but they certainly aren't mentally ill and the only hint of irrationality is undue concern about very tiny unimportant changes.
  • Davesnave
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    It's probably a good time to remind those who are being tempted down the road of long-distance diagnosis, that the only information at their disposal has been filtered through the perceptions of someone who says this:
    CrimRain wrote: »
    .... I panic a lot over almost everything and it makes me really anxious and nervous.

    The alternatives open to the OP have been outlined clearly by GM and others..
  • robatwork
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    Unfortunately, spouting garbage about lizard people is looked on almost benignly. I guess your fellow lodger is a "disciple" of David Icke, famous fruitcake goalkeeper:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/david-icke-is-not-the-messiah-or-even-that-naughty-but-boy-can-he-drone-on-8229433.html

    I think you would be advised to move yourself.
  • kinger101
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    That is not a fair comment imo.

    There are people with mental health problems on the one hand. There are people with "anxiety and depression" on the other hand. I would think that most of us count the two things as totally separate. The lodger has mental health problems. OP has "anxiety and depression".

    "Anxiety and depression" is an emotional state and probably temporary. Mental health problems are a totally different kettle of fish and something the person concerned has permanently and quite likely do cause the person concerned to act irrationally (which this lodger certainly is).

    I don't think it either accurate or fair to classify someone with a longstanding mood that has been classed as "anxiety and depression" in anything like the same category as someone who has an illness called "mental health problems (of whatever nature)".

    I've known someone for some time that has been officially pronounced as having "anxiety and depression". They have a very low mood and worry themselves unnecessarily about small things - but they certainly aren't mentally ill and the only hint of irrationality is undue concern about very tiny unimportant changes.

    Actually, both anxiety and depression can be classed as mental health issues. But feeling a bit down some days probably doesn't qualify, and it would be normal for someone to feel some distress having to deal with someone like OP describes.

    I think what you many have meant is mental health issues (like physical) can take many forms.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • kinger101 wrote: »
    Actually, both anxiety and depression can be classed as mental health issues. But feeling a bit down some days probably doesn't qualify, and it would be normal for someone to feel some distress having to deal with someone like OP describes.

    I think what you many have meant is mental health issues (like physical) can take many forms.

    Basically yep...

    and I personally think "anxiety/depression" (even as officially diagnosed) is a long way from having what I would count as mental illness (eg schizophrenia for instance). It will vary a lot. The person I know well that has "Anxiety/Depression" has functioned perfectly normally (apart from an unduly high level of worry about things) for years. Someone else I know seems to just have "Depression" as the label officially applied to them on the other hand - but there is clearly a lot more to it than that and they seem to barely function and I'm guessing we've not been told the "full" diagnosis. They are the person I persuaded the doctor not to "section" - as they have admitted one or two things to me that quite definitely are a long way past just being "Depression" - but they are quite definitely completely harmless to other people.

    Someone who thinks computers have something "living" in them is one thing. But someone who sees "lizards" inside other peoples skins sounds rather dangerous to me as to what they might do.
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