MSE News: Women's state pension petition gathers over 50,000 signatures

saver861

missbiggles1 wrote: »

There are always going to be people with exceptional circumstances but that's just what they are - exceptions.

The group that are impacted are exceptions - because they were born in a certain time frame in which the calculations are more detrimental to them than others. Had they smoothed out the changes better then they would not be 'exceptions'!!!

missbiggles1 wrote: »

And yes, I would've been p!ssed off if I'd been in that group but I wouldn't have considered it to be a gender issue

How is it a gender issue? I missed that bit, fill me in please.

Mr_Costcutter

missbiggles1 wrote: »

There are always going to be people with exceptional circumstances but that's just what they are - exceptions.
.

The situations quoted by saver861 are far from being 'exceptional'.

Goldiegirl

saver861 wrote: »

No .... I did not think you would.



Maybe .... when I read something that suggests I am wrong then my instinct will no doubt change ..... until then, I remain.

I'll let you have the last word on this one..... my instincts tell me having the last word is important to you !
:rotfl:

saver861

Goldiegirl wrote: »

I'll let you have the last word on this one..... my instincts tell me having the last word is important to you !
:rotfl:

Well, your instinct is only partially correct .....

I only speak when I have something to add ... if that happens to be the last word ..... then so be it!!

BucksLady

Good to see that Martin Lewis supports the campaign and petition

MoneyWorry

To be fair, if I was on the fence before, this thread would have made me very disinclined to sign the petition.

saver861

MoneyWorry wrote: »

To be fair, if I was on the fence before, this thread would have made me very disinclined to sign the petition.

That is one of the purposes of such forums. It is intended to be informative and thus you then, where applicable, you make a decision one way or the other.

As you were not on the fence beforehand, its less likely to sway you in a different direction in any case!!

However, it would seem many others have been swayed by various discussions and interactions on the subject - the 'petition' has gone from 50,000 to over 82,000 in six days.

bmm78

Unfortunately the petition appears to misrepresent the WASPI aim of putting "all women born in the 1950s (on or after 6 April 1951) affected by the changes to the State Pension Age in exactly the same position of they would have been in if they had been born on or before 5 April 1950".

This is effectively calling for the restoration of SPA to 60 for all women born before 1960. If this aim was clearly stated in the petition, I doubt the numbers would be close to what they are now. Many who are sympathetic to those given little notice before rises in SPA would baulk completely at the idea of throwing thousands of pounds at every 1950s woman, regardless of whether they had a case or not.

Pollycat

bmm78 wrote: »

Unfortunately the petition appears to misrepresent the WASPI aim of putting "all women born in the 1950s (on or after 6 April 1951) affected by the changes to the State Pension Age in exactly the same position of they would have been in if they had been born on or before 5 April 1950".

This is effectively calling for the restoration of SPA to 60 for all women born before 1960. If this aim was clearly stated in the petition, I doubt the numbers would be close to what they are now. Many who are sympathetic to those given little notice before rises in SPA would baulk completely at the idea of throwing thousands of pounds at every 1950s woman, regardless of whether they had a case or not.

I don't read the petition that way.

I think mentioning 1995 in the petition is a mistake. It's the 2011 revision that's caused the issue.

bmm78

Pollycat wrote: »

I don't read the petition that way.

I think mentioning 1995 in the petition is a mistake. It's the 2011 revision that's caused the issue.

I agree that 2011 is the issue, but on their facebook page WASPI are calling for all women born before 1960 to be entitled to a state pension age of 60?!?

The petition is (deliberately?) vague about what they want the transitional arrangements to be, but their overall position is clear - restoration of age 60 until 2020. Presumably women born in the early 60s would then jump straight to age 66.

The WASPI aims are completely unreasonable, and there is the increasing suspicion that what probably started as a well-intentioned campaign with a potentially valid case, has given way to self-serving elements looking to bag some extra cash.