MSE News: Women's state pension petition gathers over 50,000 signatures

saver861

RickyB2000 wrote: »

It would be good to see some data regarding being healthier. We are quite good at keeping people alive with debilitating or limiting conditions that would have killed them before. I certainly hope we are living healthier!

I have not looked at the ONS specifically measuring healthy life expectancy against actual life expectancy. 'Healthier' is somewhat subjective. If we mean 'healthy' as in carrying through the same quality of health from your 20's, 30's etc, then that's less likely.

I think someone that got an illness in 1965 when they were say 60 would have lived for a much shorter period of time than someone getting the same illness today at the same age. So while, healthy life expectancy will be increasing, I'm guessing the rate of increase will be much less than actual life expectancy. In other words, people are living longer with illnesses.

RickyB2000 wrote: »

So in this context the young (women) are worse off than their predecessors.

I think in this case its the same for women and men. Both women and men are more likely to collect their state pension and for longer than previous generations. Many previous generations did not live long enough to collect any state pension though they paid in full amounts.

On the other hand, when you have kicked it, you ain't gonna need no pension anyways!!!

Bogof_Babe

However well you look after yourself, the ageing process almost inevitably brings "aches and pains" that impact on the quality of daily life.

That's what I think is sad about all this - that people might still be alive for 25 years post-retirement, but if retirement commences at 67 they will already be candidates for more minor ailments than they were at 60. So just when they deserve some time to enjoy active retirement, they may find their body thinks otherwise.

OldBeanz

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

However well you look after yourself, the ageing process almost inevitably brings "aches and pains" that impact on the quality of daily life.

That's what I think is sad about all this - that people might still be alive for 25 years post-retirement, but if retirement commences at 67 they will already be candidates for more minor ailments than they were at 60. So just when they deserve some time to enjoy active retirement, they may find their body thinks otherwise.

It was only just over half the population who were ever able to draw their OAP at 60. The minority would die earlier than the majority and were more likely to have worked in industries which would have been physically challenging but also had inherent medical risks such as asbestosis removal or coal mining. That the government took as long as possible to equalise the pension ages shames the majority.

brandx

gadgetmind wrote: »

Put in less, ask for more, demand equality. Nice.

Exactly how it worked at the start of my working life only in favour of the men.

PennyForThem_2

Bogof_Babe wrote: »

However well you look after yourself, the ageing process almost inevitably brings "aches and pains" that impact on the quality of daily life.

That's what I think is sad about all this - that people might still be alive for 25 years post-retirement, but if retirement commences at 67 they will already be candidates for more minor ailments than they were at 60. So just when they deserve some time to enjoy active retirement, they may find their body thinks otherwise.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/disability-and-health-measurement/health-expectancies-at-birth-and-age-65-in-the-united-kingdom/2009-11/sty-facts-about-healthy-and-disability-free-life-expectancy.html


This is interesting from ONS because it looks at healthy life expectancy as opposed to life expectancy.

patanne

I also believe that the later their retirement is the shorter that healthy retirement will become. By this I do not mean work one year longer & your healthy retirement will be one year less but more like work one year longer and your healthy retirement will be 2 years less.

Do these regular life expectancy reviews that they are going to base the SPA on actually have the ability to reduce that SPA when life expectancy comes down?