We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

House of Commons Treasury Select Committee holds session on HBOS group failure report

UKParliament
UKParliament Posts: 749 Organisation Representative
Seventh Anniversary 100 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
Next week, the House of Commons Treasury Select Committee will question PRA (Prudential Regulation Authority) and FCA (Financial Conduct Authority) representatives as part of its inquiry into the HBOS failure report.

Evidence will be taken in two sessions, the first session beginning at 2:15pm on Monday 14 December, and the second session at 10am on Tuesday 15 December.

Legal and specialist advisers will also give evidence on the banking and insurance company's failure.

Monday 14 December 2015

At 2.15pm
  • Andrew Green QC, Blackstone Chambers

At 3.30pm
  • Iain Cornish, Specialist Adviser
  • Stuart Bernau, Specialist Adviser

Watch the first session on Monday 14 December from 2.15pm on Parliament TV.

Tuesday 15 December 2015

At 10.00am
  • Andrew Bailey, Deputy Governor for Prudential Regulation and Chief Executive Officer of the Prudential Regulation Authority
  • Sir Brian Pomeroy CBE, Non-Executive Board Member, Financial Conduct Authority

Watch the second session on Tuesday 15 December from 10am on Parliament TV.

Further information

Read the Commons Treasury Select Committee's independent review regarding the FCA/PRA's report into the HBOS Group failure.
Official Organisation Representative
I’m the official organisation rep for the House of Commons. I do not work for or represent the government. I am politically impartial and cannot comment on government policy. Find out more in DOT's Mission Statement.

MSE has given permission for me to post letting you know about relevant and useful info. You can see my name on the organisations with permission to post list. If you believe I've broken the Forum Rules please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. This does NOT imply any form of approval of my organisation by MSE

Comments

  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
  • Goldiegirl
    Goldiegirl Posts: 8,806 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Rampant Recycler Hung up my suit!
    I worked for Halifax for 28 years and I'm deeply saddened by what happened.


    The seeds were sown long before he started, but I think Andy Hornby is very culpable for what happened. Of course, it was madness to hire him in the first place. Putting a greengrocer in charge of a bank is a recipe for disaster.


    In summer of 2007, I was very concerned that something was going badly wrong. They were lending money on mortgages hand over fist, as the credit crunch was biting. Of course, no one would listen to a small cog in the wheel, so my colleagues and I at local level just had to wait for the impending disaster to happen, powerless to stop it.


    I've had a quick look at Thugelmir's link. I'll read it in full when I have more time, but it looks very interesting
    Early retired - 18th December 2014
    If your dreams don't scare you, they're not big enough
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    The seeds were sown long before he started, but I think Andy Hornby is very culpable for what happened. Of course, it was madness to hire him in the first place. Putting a greengrocer in charge of a bank is a recipe for disaster.


    I heard Paul Moore speak a few years ago. Admitted that he had had been paid off to maintain his silence. Finally it seems justice will be done.
  • PeacefulWaters
    PeacefulWaters Posts: 8,495 Forumite
    edited 11 December 2015 at 10:25PM
    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    I worked for Halifax for 28 years and I'm deeply saddened by what happened.


    The seeds were sown long before he started, but I think Andy Hornby is very culpable for what happened. Of course, it was madness to hire him in the first place. Putting a greengrocer in charge of a bank is a recipe for disaster.


    In summer of 2007, I was very concerned that something was going badly wrong. They were lending money on mortgages hand over fist, as the credit crunch was biting. Of course, no one would listen to a small cog in the wheel, so my colleagues and I at local level just had to wait for the impending disaster to happen, powerless to stop it.


    I've had a quick look at Thugelmir's link. I'll read it in full when I have more time, but it looks very interesting

    In 2007 they massively misjudged the mortgage strategy and missed the net lending target by a huge amount.
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/aug/11/mortgages.property

    But residential and BTL mortgages weren't the problem. Sub-prime mortgages weren't the problem. The high street bank wasn't the problem.

    Corporate and international lending was the problem.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic

    Corporate and international lending was the problem.

    Why has Lloyds subsequently racked up a £13 billion bill for HBOS's sales of PPI then?

    Are you confusing HBOS with RBS?
  • Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Why has Lloyds subsequently racked up a £13 billion bill for HBOS's sales of PPI then?

    Are you confusing HBOS with RBS?

    PPI isn't the reason the bank crashed.

    And c75% of LBG's PPI bill relates to Lloyds TSB.
  • System
    System Posts: 178,365 Community Admin
    10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    There seems to be an idea that all of LBG's issues stem from HBOS.

    Lloyds TSB wasn't in great shape either and was looking for a government bailout too.
    PPI isn't the reason the bank crashed.

    And c75% of LBG's PPI bill relates to Lloyds TSB.
    This is a system account and does not represent a real person. To contact the Forum Team email forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com
  • Goldiegirl
    Goldiegirl Posts: 8,806 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Rampant Recycler Hung up my suit!
    In 2007 they massively misjudged the mortgage strategy and missed the net lending target by a huge amount.
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/aug/11/mortgages.property

    But residential and BTL mortgages weren't the problem. Sub-prime mortgages weren't the problem. The high street bank wasn't the problem.

    Corporate and international lending was the problem.


    Well...... All I can say I was working in a department that dealt solely with residential and BTL mortgages in 2007..... and we were very concerned with the banks strategy. They wanted to lend money hand over fist in the middle of a credit crunch. Maybe it's as well they didn't meet their targets in August 2007, otherwise the situation could have turned out even worse.


    We were all waiting for something bad to happen, and it did. It culminated in us all being made redundant a couple of years later. It might not have been a problem to the people on the outside looking in.... but it was a big problem to us at the time!
    Early retired - 18th December 2014
    If your dreams don't scare you, they're not big enough
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.7K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 454K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 600.1K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.3K Life & Family
  • 258.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.