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elainemn

Good morning everyone. Happy Christmas Eve. Off to peel the sprouts now.

bubbs

Morning all :santa2:
Be glad when work is done today:o

streetlights wrote: »

Thank you bubbs for posting this, I hope you are well, I have got myself two jackets.

Hi ,
You are welcome and forgot to say my sister was thrilled with the socks:T:T
I am fine thanks hope you are too x

Mrs_stinkface

Morning all. Are you awake??? Get online at boots quick. I've just put an order on and something weird is going on. There is an offer on when you purchase 2 luxury products. It's supposed to give you 500 points. I just got 66000 points when purchasing 2 clarins items!! I've just looked at other items in the offer and it's doing the same to them- for instance, 2 X liz Earle skin spritzers at £6 each are supposed to give 500 points. It's giving 24000!!!
No idea if they will honour it but I'm bloody well having a go!
Ps- their sale has started!
PPs - happy Christmas Eve! Xxxx

Nannylala

Good morning:xmastree: a partridge in a pear tree....off to make the custard as the trifle needs to be finished ....then a quick catch-up

bubbs

Thanks stinky what did you buy?

TrulyMadly

Stinky....early bird:rotfl:

streetlights

Good morning everybody, I hope you are well and happy Christmas Eve.

I hope the shopping experience is pleasant today as everyone panics that the shops are closed tomorrow. I am braving it today to get the veg for tomorrow. Wish me luck.

elliemoo

Good morning all, happy Christmas eve. Only 1 more sleep.

Savvybuyer

Good morning!:j Happy Christmas Eve:D:xmastree: - don't read back btw:rotfl::rotfl: - I needed, I think, to get that all off my chest as I've been thinking about it and going round and round my head throughout the past week. Well, not literally all of the week, but periodically, at times, and it just revisits me occasionally. So, I'm sorry I dumped it all on yourselves and got it away from me. But, hey, at least it's away from me!:j:D Hopefully:rotfl:. Actually, it may interest someone, I'll leave the posts up, shouldn't have gone on like that but couldn't help it and it has been made a massive issue in my life since around the late 1990s really. But really my posts, no harm done I hope - as people can just skip them - and certainly nowhere near as much harm as the emotional harm that has been caused to me over numerous separate occasions. Sorry I'm going on now again:rotfl: - if I go on too much in this vein, I'll end up upsetting myself. So, I'm not going to go there. There's a rational explanation for my offence though isn't there? That last one, I don't think it's irrational to be caused offence by something like that nature (the one with my colleague present) that was on the radio - the part lyric, which always given me the full lyric, I think it clearly can be seen why something like that caused me offence. I never had any problems listening to that song in that radio version when entirely alone or with headphones. But I suspect that's because the actual full phrase does not cause me offence in those circumstances. So, actually - and I've been thinking yesterday afternoon - while in part of my driving back from M in fact - there are no circumstances in which that radio version would not cause me offence but the original (full lyric version) would. And no circumstances it which it would cause me offence but the original would not. In short, for me, it cannot be played, without causing me emotional offence, in any place in which the original would cause me offence. And in any place where the original would not cause me offence (listening entirely alone or only with my brother), the radio version would not. In sum, the radio version cannot be played any more widely to me than the original uncensored. The radio version truly censors nothing other than part of the sound. That is not the issue: the offence is not the sound, its the meaning. That is not censored and never was. I discovered the actual full lyric ten years later, and yes, it was precisely the same as what I've always got from the radio version for all those years. In fact, given that I have problems with blanked etc. versions with my father but not with uncensored films, I think the so-called 'censored' or so-called 'radio' versions (inappropriate for radio whenever I'm hearing it with anyone else except my brother) are actually more restricted for me in the places in which I can safely (that is without causing offence to myself) play them. I could not listen to this radio version with anyone from another generation around me - I would not be okay listening to this even with an older child. It's not the point that if an older child were to own this music and play it with me as a parent (which I'm not) present that it would be okay for them to play that version (the blanked one), it's that it would make me uncomfortable, regardless of whether they were okay or not with it, hearing it in their presence in which they were also hearing it. That's my rationalisation of it.

And this -
http://uk.complex.com/music/2015/04/the-best-worst-clean-versions-of-rap-songs/
(warning of potentially offensive material on that page, no, really!)

is not true. I've never been able to blast such songs out. I've felt I would be entirely uncomfortable doing so and have never done so. I switched off a song with the so-called "s" word in it - !!!!!! truncated again:rotfl: - at least you know;) - when the altered sound version of that was in the song when it played on radio on daytime in 1996. That's the earliest one I remember - just a single altered sound of that word - I knew what the word it meant was, it was too close for me, the lyric was clear, I did not feel I would be comfortable playing it around my parents who had come into my bedroom. I switched the radio off, fortunately already previously aware of the song through previous headphone listening. Years later, I discovered it was actually the sound being played in reverse. Well, it was too close for me, sounds like the word forwards, since it contains the "i" and the "sh" sounds and anyway I know what that means and is a 'disguised' (but it's not) version. I think it's the same thing that caused me gross offence (I was literally still upset for three weeks afterwards) on the radio Scissor Sisters song. I'm not happy with "ish" - it used to mean "approximate or about" - "two o'clock-ish" - but, now, every time I hear that, you may as well be saying "two o'clock" and then the so-called swearword. Which hardly really is one, and about 10% of people fifteen years ago may have agreed with that, and the innocent word in the context of meaning "about" has now been corrupted and associated with that. I actually avoid saying "two o'clock-ish", and the like, in RL. I always say "about two o'clock" now. This did not happen prior to the mid 1990s when this replacement, that I've never found okay but always offensive to hear with other people around me who are not my brother, who is (a) known to me; (b) same gender; (c) approximately, ish:rotfl:, same generation as me.

It's not been a matter of my parents getting "annoyed" (other words for what the article used). It has been about offence to me, in my own right, and my feeling that I would be quite uncomfortable hearing such a song with them present and them being able to hear it. Since they would, surely, be aware of its meaning - and their presumed awareness (I'm aware in any event, always was - only used to listen to the radio at this time period, never heard the full songs anywhere so, my point is, I did not know the language through any method other than the radio version) - the fact that I am aware and feel that they would be aware too, and what it means, makes me uncomfortable - or would do if I were to play it whilst they were there. Never comfortable doing so. Always switched off every such song, which I only ever listened to entirely alone or solely with headphones on when they could not hear it. I just feel people would be aware of what it meant, because I do, and my discomfort is because I feel uncomfortable with them possibly knowing whilst in my presence, when I know what it means, am aware of it and therefore assume that they will do too. I cannot pretend that they will not know (I know) and it's digging into an historic problem for me. It's as uncomfortable as the uncensored actual words actually coming onto TV unannounced, suddenly and prior to the watershed back in the early 90s (when the words themselves were, back then, still very very strong for me - almost the whole lot of them, only the words "damn", "bloody" and "a*s" (I have to use the asterisk there, stupidly) would be okay for me - every other, no matter if people generally considered it to be supposedly "mild" was actually very very very strong for me when on pre-watershed television. It's the ones traditionally censored by daytime broadcasting that have proven to be the problem ones for me, in circumstances not of RL saying but purely on broadcasting. Traditionally censored in the acceptable bleeped method and not any one of the more recent, all unacceptable methods that make it uncomfortable. I don't know, why a soundsystem transmission should make it worse. Maybe the ones censored were "stronger words" but I now think the problem has been caused by them being censored because it's only those ones that I have problems with, on broadcasting only, and only then before 9pm or when not at home, including problems with them in their unbleeped 'censored' form. The bleeped method, I've rationalised, is the only one that is okay since it is the one that I grew up as a child and heard then with my parents - them putting that on around me whilst I was a child. It relates to my childhood and what words were severe for me then. Which is presumably why I have no problem of any physical impact on me of any rationally more severe words these days but which were not swearwords or seen as severe back when I was a child. Such as homophobic or racist terms. The censored versions of those bother me in the gym. I hardly hear it in the uncensored ones - I think a racially offensive (but not for me in the context of rap music) word went out on one radio-played song in the gym but I ignored it. The word was quite indistinct, sounding like the rest of the soundtrack. The song later went out in an edited version on a separate occasion, and I got caused severe offence by it! It pointed the word out, problematically as usual.)

As to my parents being annoyed, my parents would probably not have been annoyed at all. I just didn't feel I would feel comfortable if I were to play it (the song with the altered sound "ish" (sorry for the offence) in it, on daytime radio, which I knew what it meant and is too close to parts of the real word for me). So, I've never played it out with my parents there, and only in that way have I been 'protected from offence' - and on every occasion on which I've encountered an unbleeped censored song (which has not used normally sung replacement clean words) come onto the television or radio, never switched on by me in the house but always someone else and me happening to be and not able to have left the room before it's happened, I've always felt uncomfortable/caused offence to me at every edited (or rather just altered since it doesn't edit the swearing out) part of the song. It's still there, in its altered sound or blanked form and that material itself means that, for me, it does not constitute a clean version. I know there are thousands of songs now that carry that labelling which, to me, I've never accepted and still don't. To me, a clean version is either a song that never had any swearing in the first place (never a problem) or a version which has been reworded with wholly clean lyrics throughout and resung throughout and does not contain any edits, suggestions, implications or hints of any swearing or any other such language whatsoever in any part of the song no matter how minor. I can tell, even if (or especially if) the element in the song is pretty minor. I suspect this is something to do with my Asperger's - I identify and pick out any tiny 'defect', discordancy or minor alteration and am always aware of it. I will always know. There is no way, IMO, to make a song clean by making alterations to the sound of the original soundtrack. It cannot possibly ever make me unaware that something is "missing" (which it therefore is not, since it comes to mind) and cannot do other than draw the word to my mind. Sometimes, if I'm hearing songs late at night with very low volume in my headphones and drifting off to sleep, but want to know when there is a swearword said, I put the so-called clean version on and then I can hear it clearly reverberate around my headphones. I can't hear it at that volume when they are actually said (the uncensored version) so I pick the altered version instead.

I've gone on again:rotfl::rotfl:.

Better go now for the morning! Bye now!:j:wave: Phew!:):cool:

TrulyMadly

bubbs wrote: »

Thanks stinky what did you buy?

If you go into offers bubbs and then advantage card offers down the left side.....choose the 500 points for 2 promotion
Then you can choose low to high price. Cheapest is Liz Earle at £6

to get £240 back in points. Can't be honoured......but we might get something?