Parking on the Pavement.

JP08

BBC article. Parking on the pavement may be made illegal unless signposted (as per London only at present).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34988833

I can see it causing major parking issues in some areas, but I also see a woman on her mobility scooter regularly unable to get along the pavement of our road - especially over the summer when the local riverside pub does a roaring food trade and people can't be bothered to park on the wider section 100yds away. At least such a law could confine parking to areas where the pavements are suitable.

Personally I like the Japanese approach to parking - you can't have a car unless you have somewhere to park it off street (which could be a communal car park before people start yelling their house has nowhere to park a car !).

roddydogs

This old chestnut again.

JP08

It is an old chestnut - even the article says so. But it is also a topical old chestnut as the bill concerned is on it's second reading in parliament today - which, admittedly, puts it a long way from becoming law ...

http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2015-16/pavementparkingprotectionofvulnerablepedestrians.html

ic

If this was imposed, locally we'd have chaos or the council would have to spend a fortune installing new road markings and signs to allow the existing parking. If mounting the pavement is a problem, then it would be better to put in single/double lines to prevent the parking in problem areas. I'd also like to see wider use of red routes as in London to keep key stretches of roads clear.

peter12345678910

The counter argument is that on a narrow road people have to park on the pavement. Especially if there is a school on the road, though not my road. So some narrow roads are hell when the cars cannot park on the pavement as they do not have the extra space that extends from the pavement to the road.

JP08

peter12345678910 wrote: »

The counter argument is that on a narrow road people have to park on the pavement.

What it would mean is that they could only park down one side of the road. If the pavement is too narrow for a car to be partly on and still allow the passage of a mobility scooter then a car should not be parked there.

Nobody "has" to park in a particular place / road. There is always an option. Ok - the options might not be very nice - live without a car, park further away, pay for a parking space in a communal facility or where someone has spare space -, but they are options.

derrick

JP08 wrote: »

BBC article. Parking on the pavement may be made illegal unless signposted (as per London only at present).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34988833

It's already illegal ,councils/police just don't enforce:-

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiting-and-parking-238-to-252

Rule 244

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.
Law GL(GP)A sect 15

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158
Rule 145

You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
Laws HA 1835 sect 72 & RTA 1988 sect 34





And for the pedants re "HC not a legal document": https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/introduction

Wording of The Highway Code

Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence.

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Nodding_Donkey

That quote from the HC just proves what the OP says.

i.e. that it is only in London at present.

BykerSands

derrick wrote: »

It's already illegal ,councils/police just don't enforce:-



Rule 244

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.


Rule 145

You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.


Wording of The Highway Code

Many of the rules in the Code are legal requirements, and if you disobey these rules you are committing a criminal offence. You may be fined, given penalty points on your licence or be disqualified from driving. In the most serious cases you may be sent to prison. Such rules are identified by the use of the words ‘MUST/MUST NOT’. In addition, the rule includes an abbreviated reference to the legislation which creates the offence.

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Why have you posted legislation relating to London. Elsewhere in the country you'd need an actual necessary or wilful obstruction to take action.

As for your other link about driving elsewhere than on a road. Do you know the footpath is a road?

BeenThroughItAll

peter12345678910 wrote: »

The counter argument is that on a narrow road people have to park on the pavement. Especially if there is a school on the road, though not my road. So some narrow roads are hell when the cars cannot park on the pavement as they do not have the extra space that extends from the pavement to the road.

No, they don't HAVE to. They could park somewhere else.

robbies_gal

we lve in a cul de sac -the end of the road is very narrow and it would block vehicles coming through if they didnt park halfway on pavement-i do get its frustrating for pedestrians but we dont have alot of people walking down our road