Lycra nits:defend this...

Irony

http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/video-cyclist-s-abusive-attack-on-eastbourne-motorist-1-7088810
Not sure if the video is choppy or my P.C
I can't find it on faceb**k to compare

Nasqueron

Why would anyone want to defend a moron who broke the law?

Should I point you to the literally thousands of dash cam videos on youtube of motorists breaking every law going and as you to defend them?

Could you defend this driver?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN0B-HNkk_s

Or this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLAuktN2N10

dannyrst

This is like those people that see the news about ISIS in Paris and blame the guy from the local take away.

A small number do not represent a majority.

JP08

For edification, what is he actually complaining about? The turning across him (which was far enough ahead to be safe), or the pass between him and the island when she overtakes (It doesn't look close on the video but angles can be hard to judge on personal cameras. ) ? I can't make it out from the audio on my PC here.

I've had people turn across me in a dangerous manner when on the cycle commute to the station, ie overtake and then take the left turn causing me to emergency stop. On one occasion the woman had to do the emergency stop - it was that or drive straight through the cyclist immediately in front of me.

And yes, on one occasion I have had a rant at a driver (and no, it wasn't a woman in a hatchback - it was a hefty bloke in a LR Defender) who did something thoughtless near me. Really foul heavy rainy night cycling back from the station, viz jacket and lights on. This guy is in the opposite lane waiting to turn right into a petrol station. He's seen me, but due to the conditions, I've not been able to see through his windscreen that he's seen me (or "got face" as the bikers term it). So when he turns his wheels and edges forward, aiming to get across in the small gap between me and the car behind, I have a complete "Oh !!!!, he's going to plough straight through me" extreme evasion manoeuvre that put me up the kerb and off the bike.

I'm not particularly proud of the rant (somewhere between anger and shock, so plenty of expletives and, less effectively, stammering), but he did acknowledge the point that moving when someone else can't verify that you've seen them could severely put the !!!!!! up them ... even when you've technically done nothing wrong.

londonTiger

she left him plenty of space, both on the overtake and the left turn in.

The cyclist perhaps had to put his brakes on because he "felt" he was in danger and that's why he's angry.

That's the crux of it, cyclists know that it's hard work to pedal a bike and they feel that cars should [and traffic lights] should not force them to put their brakes on what so ever, and if one does they take them to town for it.

They're not following the rules of the road. I once got caught in a box junction, traffic was moving on at 5mph and then suddenly traffic stopped and I was trying to go into lane 1 which had plenty of space for me to drive into, except there were cyclists there and even though I was indicating to turn left and move over, they just wouldn't yeild way, one after another they were just riding along leaving me trapped in the box junction. A motorist would have yield way and let me cross over and save me a £60 ticket.

Luckily I didn't get a ticket, but goes to show, cylists don't want to use their brakes and waste energy so they'll cycle through red lights, undertake HGVs and ride straight into the side of a car instead of using their brakes.

Retrogamer

I love how people are saying "cyclists this / that" again as if they're all the same.

When a drunk driver runs someone over does that represent the rest of the motoring community?

I don't think people will leap to the defence of an idiot regardless if they're walking, driving, riding a horse or cycling.

arcon5

I didn't think the cyclist was polite in that he swore.... be I certainly wouldn't class him as 'abusive' despite being a misguided idiot

bigjl

Retrogamer wrote: »

I love how people are saying "cyclists this / that" again as if they're all the same.

When a drunk driver runs someone over does that represent the rest of the motoring community?

I don't think people will leap to the defence of an idiot regardless if they're walking, driving, riding a horse or cycling.

Having driven round London for 20odd years I have always noted cyclists doing stupid things.

It used to be just cycle couriers that would kick cars and deliberately smash door mirrors.

But we have a few new breeds of cyclist.

The cyclist with no perception of danger, the one with the holier than though attitude and the Lycra clad activist with a GoPro that thinks the best thing to do is scream registrations out loudly as if by doing so absolves him or her of their wrong doings.

I heard the TFL cycling bod on LBC this AM and what an unpleasant and arrogant !!!!! he sounds.

BJ even admitted that he was the only candidate for that position.

And when confronted with the results of an LBC survey relating to numbers of cyclists not using the new cycle super highway he repeated time and time again that the reporter was a liar.

Loads of London cyclists ignore cycle lanes.

Which seems a stupid thing to do imho, and he wouldn't answer the point being made which was should cyclists use of cycle lane on the cycle super highway be made mandatory.

Which I think it should as it will stop the political cyclists with GoPro from holding up traffic deliberately as they do all the time.

And risk awareness course should also be mandatory for cyclists before going on the roads of any large City. Or in fact on the road. Motorcyclists injuries and fatalities dropped when compulsory training was introduced.

If anybody thinks going up the left of an LGV to save a few seconds is in any way a good idea needs their head examined.

Many London cyclists seem to think they are immune from collisions. And have no idea what a blind spot is.

Such incidents are probably made worse due to the barriers that councils put up on pavements to stop lemming like pedestrians from crossing at the wrong place which also means that cyclists lose this exit route if they make a mistake.

Johno100

I saw the clip when it first appeared on Youtube. It shows how easy it is for 'activists' like this to lose all sense of proportion, a bit like self-styled vigilante Mr. Stockdale in the M1 story.

MacMickster

Loads of London cyclists ignore cycle lanes.

Which seems a stupid thing to do imho, and he wouldn't answer the point being made which was should cyclists use of cycle lane on the cycle super highway be made mandatory.

Which I think it should as it will stop the political cyclists with GoPro from holding up traffic deliberately as they do all the time.

Having just spent a few weeks working in Spain, I stayed in a villa close to this road

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@38.6797071,0.1136179,3a,75y,277.12h,69.19t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1svan0LGVTnEe7eYRu3--fUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

On the left you will see a dedicated cycle path, separated from traffic by a high kerb. This seems like exactly the kind of layout that the cycling lobby continually call for public money to be spent on.

Almost without exception, the lycra louts ignored this cycle path, and when going up what is a deceptively steep hill would cause huge tailbacks of cars unable to safely overtake them (the road is not usually as quiet as when the camera car went up it).

Where dedicated cycle lanes are in place then cyclists should be forced by law to use them.

londonTiger

it really !!!!es me off when they dont use the cycle lines. TFL are crippling London by narrowing down the already insufficent lanes to make way for cycle lanes and cyclist still refuse to use them