Abuse of Overtime

Rosemary7391

Might be an innocent explanation - perhaps he needs to get there early because he relies on public transport, and needs to clock in so it's recorded that he's in the building in case of fire? It'd be unusual for people just to get paid for any time they're clocked in, surely?

martinthebandit

Just a quick question OP

How do you know this?

TELLIT01

Do you know for a fact that this person is being paid for the additional time they are on site? It's years since I had to clock on and off but I didn't get paid for time outside standard working hours, irrespective of what time I clocked, unless the overtime was authorised.
If this guy is taking the proverbial it suggests that management need to up their game.

jaydeeuk1

why don't you do it too then?

1886

There seems to be a lot of people on here that can't read so I will explain it in more detail for the simpletons.

An employee comes into work 30-45 minutes before his start time. If he clocks on then he's being paid overtime (time and a half).

If he does'nt clock on then he is'nt being paid. He could wait until his official start time and then clock on.

The workshop controller was actually sent on a course last week which was all about ways in which he could save money.

What is happening is something to do with me as I work in the same department as the guy in question. We are trying to save money in all areas and drinking tea for half an hour whilst being paid overtime instead of working is'nt helping us save money.

The reason he does it is because he resents having to drive a fifty mile round trip each day to work so he thinks if he comes in early the money he gets will pay for his fuel. I do overtime but I actually work for the time not drink tea.

I could probably do the same if I wanted to but that's not the sort of person I am. I think I will mention it as it's not fair on the other employees that do work and the company as a whole.

Thank you for your opinions, of which have been pretty much no help whatsoever LMAO

Rosemary7391

1886 wrote: »

If he clocks on then he's being paid overtime (time and a half).

This is the point that was missing from your OP (and I still don't know how you know it - are you absolutely certain?). No need to be rude to everyone for not inferring it, especially as it seems to be unusual practice. When I had to clock on, overtime had to be authorised by a manger to be paid. That seems to be quite standard. Would your employer not notice anyway that he is always doing overtime?

Elfbert

As above - in my old workplace, loads of people would come in early and have a brew and read the paper - they would clock on, but they were never paid for this time as the boss knew this was how it worked, and had to sign off on overtime for it to be paid.

Whereas my new job you clock in for the actual work you do - if you arrive early then you don't clock in. You're welcome to be there, but you don't clock in if you're not actually working.

I mean, by all means mention this guy to someone - although I can't believe you'd be the only one to notice this?? If you're sure, and are trying to help save money, go for it. Just don't expect him to be making you a cup of tea any time soon...or at least, I wouldn't drink it if he did

chuckley

how does this affect you?!

redpete

chuckley wrote: »

how does this affect you?!

If it works as the OP explained then it is taking money out of the company without putting in anything productive; it sounds like the company is maybe needing to be careful with costs which could indicate that there might be trouble ahead.

Measures to save cash are likely to affect the OP in one way or another - I'd be annoyed and consider it 'my business' if someone else in the company had decided they deserved reward for doing nothing.

xHannahx

Are you paid on the time clocked in, or just the scheduled hours.

If you are paid to the clocking in time, it may well be gross misconduct, if your just paid on the scheduled hours it doesn't really matter when clocks in.