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Abuse of Overtime

I'd like opinions on this please.

I've noticed that a guy I work with comes in to work between 30-45 minutes early and sits drinking tea instead of starting work. When he's on a late shift he's meant to start work at 10.30am but he comes in before 10.00, clocks on and then either sits in the locker room or the canteen for half an hour.

I'm not sure how long he's been doing this but it's at least a few months. Should I mention it anonymously or keep quiet?
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  • Is it anything to do with you?

    If you don't find joy in the snow,
    remember you'll have less joy in your life


    ...but still have the same amount of snow!
  • Clearly you have no line responsibility for him.
    What he does with his free time (that is, for example, the half-hour between when he clocks in and when his shift starts) is nothing to do with you.
    He seems like a good employee who is ensuring that he is never late for his shift.
    Clocking on but not working for 30 minutes would only be an "abuse of overtime" if he were being paid for those 30 minutes. As I don't suppose you are working in payroll then it is still nothing to do with you.
  • shortcrust
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    Even if he's getting paid for doing nothing, no one likes a telltale at work when stuff like this is concerned. Have you even mentioned it to him? Making an anonymous complaint without discussing with him first would be a pretty low blow.
  • ACG
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    If you want to tell your employers, tell them.
    It makes no odds what anyone else on here thinks.

    If one of my employees was taking the proverbial, I would want to know.
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  • bluenoseam
    bluenoseam Posts: 4,612 Forumite
    30 minutes a day - if he's on a 5 day week that's 2.5hrs a week or over 100hrs a year. Now without seeming to be a bit of a skinflint, if I ran a business & knew that I was spending the rough equivalent of 3 weeks wages a year for someone to drink tea I'd be asking serious questions.

    It all hinges on if he's actually clocking in or not, it's not unheard of for me to rock up at work at say 10.30 to start for an 11 o'clock start & casually enjoy a coffee before I actually start. (admittedly most of the time checking out e-mails & bulletins) If he is however clocking on then sitting on his backside then it's something I'd personally be raising as it saves the company a not so insignificant sum of money annually!
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  • ohreally
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    I'd like opinions on this please.


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  • I don't see what your problem is. I do this every day, clock in early and get a coffee. That way I'm on the department at my start time, and if a disaster happens, then I'm there to help. I don't get paid until my start time, and it gives me time to get my head into work mode. My philosophy is 'if you're on time, your late.'
  • ACG
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    edited 27 November 2015 at 10:19PM
    I don't see what your problem is. I do this every day, clock in early and get a coffee. That way I'm on the department at my start time, and if a disaster happens, then I'm there to help. I don't get paid until my start time,
    I think thats where it differs.
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  • anamenottaken
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    edited 27 November 2015 at 9:45PM
    ACG wrote: »
    I think thats where it differs.


    So you know what is going on in the workplace where the OP is observing a colleague turning up early and starting work on time? You know that the colleague is being paid for this time before his shift officially begins?

    "Back in the day" I used to clock in and out twice a day but because the clock wan't near my office I would clock in well before I even reached my desk and stopped formal work well before leaving the factory site. I was paid for my contracted hours not all the time between clocking in and clocking out.
  • ACG
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    edited 27 November 2015 at 10:19PM
    I have not got a clue about anything, hence why I said "I THINK".

    If the OP works in a department on a team and they are all on the same contract then they would know yes. I have worked in offices where we are on the same contract bar the wage. The OP may not know with 100% accuracy whether the contract is the same, but is there any harm in them raising their concerns?

    It might cause some resentment between the 2 but if the person was not taking the proverbial out of their employer there would be no issue?
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
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