Use of CCTV in Rented Accommodation to Evict Tenants over Non-Contractual Rules

Pixie5740

Do you manage this HMO thesaint?

Guest101

thesaint wrote: »

As a manager of an HMO, I can vouch that it is in the interests to keep an eye on who is staying overnight in my property. - I'm not sure i want to know your interest in overnight visitors.
There is a distinct difference between visitors, and overnight visitors. Ask any prison.

Overnight visitors are often as good as living in the property, and I get complaints that there are too many people needing the bathroom in the morning, etc etc. - Well then rent to people as joint tenants and let them deal with the issues?

They also cost extra to the landlord. - Then the LL should stop being a LL.

The length of the tenancy is obviously in the OP's favour, but it's little comfort, as his life can be made miserable in an HMO.

Dont usually disagree with you, but on this point i really do.

What the person does in their room is nothing to do ith anyone else.

What happens in the communal areas (such as the bathroom) fair enough.

samsmoot

You could make a Subject Access Request under the DPA for copies of any video images of yourself, from my understanding:

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/


I'd think about doing this just to show the landlord that they are messing with the wrong person and that they'd better watch it. As it seems unlikely that they will comply you'd then have ammunition for taking it further if need be, as breaches of the DPA are civilly actionable. A bit of attack might be appropriate in these particular circumstances.

thesaint

Pixie5740 wrote: »

Do you manage this HMO thesaint?

If I did, I have ways to deal with know-it-all non desireables. All legal of course.

Guest101 wrote: »

Dont usually disagree with you, but on this point i really do.

What the person does in their room is nothing to do ith anyone else.

What happens in the communal areas (such as the bathroom) fair enough.

As far as I am aware, the landlord hasn't any interest in what is happening in the room.

I shall give you an example.
A tenant called me two weeks ago stating that two people were living in 1 room.

This tenant has been in the property for 3 years, pays his rent each month like clockwork.

It is in my interest to make sure that this does not continue, as I know that the bathroom and kitchen isn't available to my paying tenants as it was previously. He is miffed, as he is paying the rent, and getting less for his money.

I pay for the utilities, so it is also costing me money. This is not even taking into account any legal issues that may arise.

I bet the others in the OP's house are pleased that the landlord is taking action.

So, to say "It's not the landlords business" is somewhat naive.

samsmoot wrote: »

You could make a Subject Access Request under the DPA for copies of any video images of yourself, from my understanding:

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/


I'd think about doing this just to show the landlord that they are messing with the wrong person and that they'd better watch it. As it seems unlikely that they will comply you'd then have ammunition for taking it further if need be, as breaches of the DPA are civilly actionable. A bit of attack might be appropriate in these particular circumstances.

Oh lawd!

moneyistooshorttomention

This thread cant be for real can it???

Surely no-one would agree to live in a place with cameras like that in the first place?

At the very least - if they had somehow moved in without noticing the cameras (or they came later) then surely they would have sabotaged them all by now wouldn't they? (ie crept up behind them and smeared something removable/but non-seethroughable on the lens)???

Self-respect demands having appropriate privacy in your own home.

kinger101

Why do you get some t-shirts printed saying "my landlord is a nosy little tw@*. Then dance around in front of the camera. Better still, get it tattooed on your butt cheeks and moon it at the camera.

Then we can all debate endlessly on the tenant's human rights with regard to freedom of expression.

marksoton

The answer is quite simple.

Expanding foam.

booksurr

marksoton wrote: »

The answer is quite simple.

Expanding foam.

:shocked: instead of the butt cheek tattoo do you mean :eek:

Guest101

thesaint wrote: »

If I did, I have ways to deal with know-it-all non desireables. All legal of course.



As far as I am aware, the landlord hasn't any interest in what is happening in the room.

I shall give you an example.
A tenant called me two weeks ago stating that two people were living in 1 room.

This tenant has been in the property for 3 years, pays his rent each month like clockwork.

It is in my interest to make sure that this does not continue, as I know that the bathroom and kitchen isn't available to my paying tenants as it was previously. He is miffed, as he is paying the rent, and getting less for his money.

I pay for the utilities, so it is also costing me money. This is not even taking into account any legal issues that may arise.

I bet the others in the OP's house are pleased that the landlord is taking action.

So, to say "It's not the landlords business" is somewhat naive.



Oh lawd!

I think we're kind of agreeing.

Firstly we agree on the cameras!

And I agree if things go on outside the private room, then the LL is duty bound on behalf of the other tenants to step in.

But the problem here seems to be overnight visitors, rather than just visitors. Which to me suggests the problem is concerning who's in the private room.

kinger101

booksurr wrote: »

:shocked: instead of the butt cheek tattoo do you mean :eek:

I'm willing to wager that there is an A&E department somewhere in this country that could confirm someone has tried this.