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How to put up shelf supports

Hi All,


Does anyone know the best way to put up shelf supports and a rail onto plasterboard.


Its a built in wardrobe, The back wall and one side wall are internal walls, the other side is the outside wall.


I want to drill holes then screw some timber to each wall for a shelf to rest on. As its plasterboard, im assuming it wont hold much weight. Not done an awful lot of DIY but im assuming I will need to find the wooden joists in the plasterboard and screw into these to make it sturdy?


Anyone have any newbie advice?


Thank you!

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  • Reece_
    Reece_ Posts: 291 Forumite
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    Finding the studs is the way to go, if your baton is running full length then you shouldn't have a problem getting a good few fixings into the studs.
    That said, with batons on all 3 sides, there won't be much leverage force just downwards which plasterboard takes pretty well so realistically decent plasterboard fixings would suffice, but again if you're running a baton all the way it would be stupid not to take advantage and get into any stud that you can.
  • Ebe_Scrooge
    Ebe_Scrooge Posts: 7,320 Forumite
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    edited 17 November 2015 at 2:42PM
    ^^^ What he said.


    I'd always go into the studs for anything other than very lightweight applications. Handy hint - once you've found one stud, they're usually spaced 2 foot apart, so that should make finding the others a bit easier.


    A simple stud-detector device is not expensive, and if the majority of your walls are stud/plasterboard then it's a very worthwhile investment. You can get more expensive ones that detect wires and cables etc., but ones that just detect studs are pretty cheap - and, in my experience, very effective.
  • prezzacc
    prezzacc Posts: 147 Forumite
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    Thank you both for the help.


    That was my next question, how to find the studs. I did see some people suggest strong magnets as an accurate way?!


    From a complete newbie view...once found do I just drill into them, place my timber over and screw through the timber into the drilled hole, if its stud what's the best screws to use.


    As its not a giant area if I can find 1 or 2 studs, I assume a couple other screws into plasterboard will still be of help to support.


    Thank you for the replies.
  • Vampgirl
    Vampgirl Posts: 622 Forumite
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    If you have metal studs (rather than wood) then we've found using plasterboard fixings is actually easier and more reliable.
    We use fixings like these:
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/fischer-plasterboard-plugs-hdf-4-x-mm-pk100/58219 for heavy duty things eg. shelves and mirrors
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/spit-driva-tp12-panhead-fixings-metal-35mm-pack-of-100/11923 or these: http://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-self-drill-plasterboard-fixings-nylon-32mm-pack-of-100/97406 for lighter duty work eg. pictures and clocks. Though when I fitted out our airing cupboard I used the plastic self drill plugs to attach the batons and they are absolutely solid.

    The only problem is if you have a dot and dab outer wall - there isn't enough space between the plasterboard and the blockwork to use plasterboard fixings.
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