Petition to government to change parking law

HO87

sorry - duplicate post

The_Slithy_Tove

enfield_freddy wrote: »

the day that MPs don,t play golf with the "Renshaw-smiths" of this world , something might change , until then ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Patronage is alive and kicking in this country, and always has been. This government probably being the worst at helping their mates. Why do you think the CEO of TalkTalk is still in her post? Nothing to do with nob-nobbing with Cameron, of course. You only have to look at PE's parent company Crapita (motto: "Dedicated to ripping off the public purse by consistently providing poor service and solutions to the public sector at vast cost"*) to see why PE were never going to lose.

*Yes, they've been doing this over successive governments.

londonTiger wrote: »

p.s. the petition is dumb. you should remove the £10 suggestion. its too low and people will never pay for parking and will just pay the fine wen they get caught.

Like most of these internet petitions, they make unrealistic demands or are just a rant. One day I may sign one of these, but only when I see a sensibly worded, practical and realistic statement.

AltheHibby

Signed and shared on Facebook.

The_Deep

Parking is neither a privilege, nor a right, what a ridiculous thing to say.

Parking is a commercial transaction. You want to park your car, you buy a house with a garage, park in your front garden, rent a garage from the Council, or buy a [EMAIL="Residents'@parking"]Residents'[/EMAIL] permit. You want to park at the station, you buy a ticket.

Whilst the aims of this petition are commendable, it is bound to fail to collect enough signatures. Not enough people care, there has been just one thanks on this very partial forum, which says it all.

bazster

londonTiger wrote: »

the bevis !!!! messed up. a lot of people were telling him not to take this on because he would lose against a trained barrister and have ramifications with all consumer law.

If you believe that Beavis represented himself in the Supreme Court you really haven't been keeping up.

And who were these "lot of people" "telling him not to take this on"? I don't suppose even you communicated your obviously-legally-qualified opinion to him.

bazster

@zenmaster, thank you for your intelligent contribution to the discussion.

On the subject of privilege, any business that expects me to regard it as a privilege to park on their premises in order to spend my money with them finds out pretty sharpish that they were privileged to receive my custom, and that privilege just got withdrawn.

Herzlos

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

Like most of these internet petitions, they make unrealistic demands or are just a rant. One day I may sign one of these, but only when I see a sensibly worded, practical and realistic statement.

I thought £10 for a trivial infraction is pretty fair. Presumably better wording should be "£10 or the overdue parking fee, whichever is higher" or "£10 + the overdue parking fee". The payment rate would be a whole lot higher too.

Parkrage

The_Deep wrote: »

Not enough people care, there has been just one thanks on this very partial forum, which says it all.

. Yes I've been amazed at the apparent lack of interest shown by the general public since the Beavis-PE SC judgement. Although I don't buy the Daily Fail everyday, I do buy it on Saturdays and I bought it on the day following the judgement announcement, expecting there to be a big splash - but there wasn't, and I've seen nothing in it since, not even in the 'Letters' section (remember, a couple or so years ago, the DF ran quite a campaign against PPCs).

Castle

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

Why do you think the CEO of TalkTalk is still in her post? Nothing to do with nob-nobbing with Cameron, of course.

And the fact that she's married to John Penrose (Conservative MP) may help.

bargepole

Parkrage wrote: »

. Yes I've been amazed at the apparent lack of interest shown by the general public since the Beavis-PE SC judgement. Although I don't buy the Daily Fail everyday, I do buy it on Saturdays and I bought it on the day following the judgement announcement, expecting there to be a big splash - but there wasn't, and I've seen nothing in it since, not even in the 'Letters' section (remember, a couple or so years ago, the DF ran quite a campaign against PPCs).

Unfortunately, as far as the media are concerned, this is now a bit of a non-story. There was a big splash after the Court of Appeal verdict, but the latest UKSC ruling merely confirms that position (albeit with more weight of legal argument) so nothing has really changed.

Had Mr Beavis been successful, the story would have been splashed across all the nationals and TV stations, no doubt accompanied with the headline 'Daily Mail Campaign Defeats Parking Bullies'. 'How the DM won the battle - exclusive report page 8'. 'Kim Kardashian's bum exposed in wind tunnel incident - pictures page 17'.