Ryanair to charge for airport desk check-in

Aiadi

budgetflyer wrote: »

The easiest method I can think of to improve security is "FREE" (this is MSE afterall;))
Just get more people to like us.
A simple concept - if we dont pee off half the world ,then half the world will not want to kill us.
To test it works, just be more nice to people on an individual basis, try it for a week and see the difference.
Then when it works (it will, I promise:beer:) think how collectively we could implement this to improve security

True MSE spirit. Idealist but nevertheless awesome.

alwaysskint96

peterbaker wrote: »

Not so. Well I know security don't check passports if you've checked in at the desk at Stansted and at least one foreign airport I use a lot, anyway. They only want to see boarding cards. Do they perhaps check passports if you have checked in online and have an inkjetted boarding card? Perhaps they crosscheck the self-printed 'boarding card' with your name on your passport? What training do they have in the vagaries of inkjet technology I wonder?

Well I go through Stansted at least once a month- the last time being last Weds- and I have always had my passport checked at security, just before the stuff goes through the x-ray machine. Regularly have to have my shoes x-rayed as well- whcih seems silly when Ive got open sandals on LOL

peterbaker

alwaysskint96 wrote: »

Well I go through Stansted at least once a month- the last time being last Weds- and I have always had my passport checked at security, just before the stuff goes through the x-ray machine. Regularly have to have my shoes x-rayed as well- whcih seems silly when Ive got open sandals on LOL

You will only have a passport checked demanded by security if you do not have a desk issued boarding card, but instead have documents from an online check-in process.

If you have handed them your passport at the same time as a check-in desk issued boarding card, then they have probably just got tired of telling people they don't need it. Indeed in previous years they were regularly telling people at the security queues "Boarding Cards Only" please.

I can assure you (also from experience) that you can get airside all the way to the gate without showing any ID other than a desk issued boarding card. Then it's just a question of how easily distracted the boys and girls on the gate can get in the scrum :rolleyes:

It is a system that is about as secure and well understood by the people affected by it as the one that is supposed to prevent illegal immigration. The fact that you and I can use it regularly, yet hold diametrically opposed ideas about what's involved in document-checking rather confirms it :beer:

ynot2005

they might appear to check your passport at security because the boarding card is inserted in the passport and the travelling public belive security want to see your passport and hand it to them when they only require the boarding card

the online printed boarding card is scanned by security and i dont think even then they check your passport , but i could be wrong about that

stpandp

How does this apply to people who have already booked with Ryanair and not taken online check-in option - can we now check-in online for free (no hand luggage) or still have to go to desk and now pay?

peterbaker

... we pay :mad:

... I think that's for all bookings made after 28th September 2007, but I am so annoyed about it that I am not even going to check Ryanair's arbitrary small print! I just hope they are spending the money they cream off on safety.

As operators of probably the largest 737-800 fleet in Europe I would very much like to hear from them whether or not they have yet checked all their aircraft for the Boeing 737-800 (and similar) safety problem highlighted in the China Airlines fire last week. I see no announcement on their website about that.

I read that the Federal Aviation Authority issued the mandatory Airworthiness Directive on Saturday. I think possibly every one of Ryanair's aircraft has to be carefully checked and then it has to be checked regularly thereafter to make sure no punctured fuel tanks occur like we saw last week. I'd be very interested to know whether Ryanair has got started...I'll be flying on one next week and I shall ask the flight crew if they know or if they are gambling.

Time O'Leary got his website small print priorities right methinks and communicated something about aviation safety, rather than cluttering it with other junk and wheezes.

GlennTheBaker

If you ask the Ryanair crew about gambling, they'll try to sell you a scratch card.

richardw

Boeing will issue a maintenance notice to ryanair, ryanair then advise their maintenance provider, who know already, maintenance provider then carry out the work to the aircraft and update paperwork, aircraft maintains value and ryanair can then sell aircraft at higher price than they paid for them, peterbaker continues to fly ryanair.

ryanair make money out of Boeing and peterbaker, ryanair shareholders ecstatic.

peterbaker

What's all that future tense 'will do this' 'will do that' ring-o-ring-o-roses stuff, richardw?

AFAIK what the FAA mandated was not a "maintenance notice". It was an emergency airworthiness directive issued by the authority that originally certified the aircraft to fly!

Aviation is a 7 day a week business and its now drawing to the end of the fourth day in which the aircraft owners operators and maintainers have had the emergency safety directive in their hands. The FAA said inspect the worldwide fleet. They said "effective immediately" and "before further flight", but in no case delay beyond 24 days, which, if 'days' isn't a typo for 'hours' I am guessing is the best they dare impose in an "emergency" in an industry that declares that safety is the number one priority, and that they really hope operators will take them seriously.

I can't see any added value in it for anyone, especially not from what peterbaker pays Ryanair:p

I take it you did see the video of the China Airlines fire? I didn't see anyone in ecstasy over it, but maybe they were out of camera shot?

richardw

ryanair shareholders make money from Boeing and passengers, that is why they are ecstatic.
There is no suggestion that anybody is ecstatic about any fire on any aircraft.
If any Boeing 737 was unfit to fly to or from any UK airport, the CAA may have exercised some of their authority.