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wearing a poppy
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ThumbRemote wrote: »
It reminds me of those Facebook things that go round and round, "take a minute to share this to show you support our armed forces", over and over again.
It is nothing like that at all.....0 -
My mother refused to buy a poppy as she said the Earl Haig Fund, who got the money, only provided help to regular soldiers and not to those conscripted for the war. So my father, and all those who were conscripts ,were not entitled to any help.0
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I see it as a bit like a football match following the death of a footballing figure - the players show their respect by wearing a black armband. People may well take a dim view of a player who expresses respect but refuses to wear the armband.
It is a gesture and it should be freely made - but to turn up at the Cenotaph on Remembrance Sunday without one is possibly somewhat crass.
Each to their own, however. I am grateful for the freedom that was hard-won for this country.0 -
I went to the cenotaph in London on Sunday I didn't wear a poppy it fell off my coat the night before and I didn't realise until I was already halfway there. Granted I did have a poppy scarf on from Primark black with big poppies on.
I noticed a lot of people weren't wearing poppies including some of the police and st johns ambulance
Everyone observes Remembrance Day in their own way just by being their the OP showed his respects.
As for comparing the not wearing of a poppy to wearing shorts and a t-shirt to a funeral that's just silly. My uncle wore jeans and an Iron Maiden shirt to my dads funeral as that was what he had worn the last time they went to a gig together and that was his way of remembering my dad. At my mum's funeral I asked everyone to wearing something green as that was my mum's favourite colour and my brother wore his bright green kermit the frog jacket as my mum always hated it and it was an on running joke between them at my brothers poor taste in clothes.
IMHO the act of remembrance is carried out by just turning up as that shows the real effortFirst Date 08/11/2008, Moved In Together 01/06/2009, Engaged 01/01/10, Wedding Day 27/04/2013, Baby Moshie due 29/06/2019 :T0 -
Absolutely you have the right to not wear a poppy.
I don't wear one myself as I feel that there is an element of glorifying war in doing so.
Going to the Cenotaph without one seems to me to be like, I don't know, going to a Beatles appreciation event with a t-shirt saying "The Beatles were overrated". I'll defend your right to do so, but you need to accept that in doing so you are making a statement. Why would you want to go there and make such a statement? And if you do go there and make such a statement you need to expect others to disagree with your statement.
Other people have the right to disagree with your decisions. They have the right to tell you so. The forcefullness of the "dressing down" that you got would determine whether they overstepped the mark or not.
Hold on...
They had a go at you about it during the two minute silence??spend_or_save wrote: »I must admit i am suprised that some people think it is more disrespectful to not wear a poppy, while quietly and respectfully paying my respects at the centotaph, than it is to break the silence and verbally abuse someone who is not wearing one.
That's not on!0 -
Disagree all you like, as has been shown today if you act like this it offends people and they will say something to you about it.
Who are these self-appointed Judgement Dispensers? It's downright rude to have a go at somebody who has bothered and taken the time to show their respect.
The OP is not part of an official ceremony; they weren't a designated wreath layer; they are simply paying their respects. Indeed, the person with nothing better to do had no idea of the events leading up to the OP being there.
Facts: The OP was paying their respects.
That's enough, for the circumstances. It's better than the poppy-wearing brigade who couldn't even tell you WHERE the memorial is.
Maybe the OP has an official date booked for tomorrow, or went at the weekend .... and were simply passing right now, without their poppy, and thought they'd pop in for a quick bit of reflection.
Nobody's business but their own. Not there to be measured or judged, to be addressed or spoken to.
How rude of the person that felt it was their duty to admonish those present.....0 -
the chap next to me (who i dont know from adam) noticed it during the silence and proceeded to mouth to me "wheres your poppy" before it had finished, in fairness the profanities only started after the silence and when i told him i didnt wear a poppy.JimmyTheWig wrote: »Absolutely you have the right to not wear a poppy.
I don't wear one myself as I feel that there is an element of glorifying war in doing so.
Going to the Cenotaph without one seems to me to be like, I don't know, going to a Beatles appreciation event with a t-shirt saying "The Beatles were overrated" i disagree with your beatles analogy, i would say its more like turning up to the concert without a beatles tshirt on rather than one slagging them off. I'll defend your right to do so, but you need to accept that in doing so you are making a statement. Why would you want to go there and make such a statement? For me i am not, not wearing it as a protest or some sort of statement, as my previous post i just dont feel comfortable with it for the reasons i have given, And if you do go there and make such a statement you need to expect others to disagree with your statement.
Other people have the right to disagree with your decisions. They have the right to tell you so. The forcefullness of the "dressing down" that you got would determine whether they overstepped the mark or not. although i find it strange why people are so offended, especially in the circumstances where i was there clearly paying my respects i agree people are entilited to their opinion, and even their right to voice them to me, however doing in the manner they were is totally wrong IMO
Hold on...
They had a go at you about it during the two minute silence??
That's not on!
Jimmy,
ive responded above, i appreciate your entilted to your opinion, but your basically saying someone who doesnt feel comfortable wearing a poppy cant turn up on rememberance sunday to pay their respects without expecting to recieve dissaproving comments, its this im having the problem with, you say you dont wear one because of your view of what it repesents to you, im pretty sure this doesnt mean you dont value and respect those who fought in the great wars, so why should we not be allowed to demonstrate this respect by turning up at the cenotaph?
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PasturesNew wrote: »Who are these self-appointed Judgement Dispensers?
I don't know I am afraid as I wasn't there.
As a guess I would say patriots0 -
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spend_or_save wrote: »Im guessing your getting the words partriot and idiot mixed up!
whats Patriotic about verbally abusing someone paying their respects at the cenotaph on rememberance sunday?
You brought this on yourself. Someone asked you where your poppy was and you made a statement of I don't wear a poppy. That led to someone giving you a verbal dressing down.
If you don't understand why that behaviour wasn't appropriate then I don't think we have much more to discuss on this thread!0
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