Don't stay in school

pickledonionspaceraider

mgdavid wrote: »

No, A levels were taught and taken at school as well. That's what the sixth form was for, back in the days before Comprehensive education ruined everything.
Ha, 'Comprehensive education', an untruth if ever there was one.

No, not all schools have sixth form amenities, mine didn't

missbiggles1

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

There are actually random schools teaching random subjects, it is actually happening and always has

For example child attending a religious school for example is receiving an extremely different education from one attending a regular comp - with church studies and Mass several times a week, you are missing out huge chunks of national curriculum

All faith schools within the state system have to teach the national curriculum - the only difference is that they're able to teach their own faith within RE lessons.

No independent schools need to follow the National Curriculum (although many of them do), whether faith schools or not.

Feebie

Elsewhere - things have changed! If appropriate, teachers are supposed to relate concepts to real life applications or to make connections between subjects within the school curriculum. I'd be given this as a development point if I didn't.

Flyonthewall

missbiggles1 wrote: »

I think you'll find that this is why there's a National Curriculum.;)

Given that you seem to remember so little from your school days (which obviously weren't all that long ago) I don't think you're in a terribly good position to argue about what is or isn't taught.

Yeah, but schools are clearly being taught different things. This thread alone is proof of that.

What are you talking about, I remember loads from school! Seriously, I state I don't remember one little thing and all of a sudden you seem to think I've got no memories at all of many years of my life...I remember many things, I've been talking about them throughout this thread.

Although not sure what you call long ago?

Flyonthewall

mgdavid wrote: »

Strongly disagree.
First aid, if wanted, can be taught or arranged to be taught, by the child's parent(s) or guardian or other responsible adult..

That's fine if they know what they are doing. However, you can seriously injure someone if you do something wrong so going to a place set up to give you the proper advice is a far better idea.

missbiggles1

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Yeah, but schools are clearly being taught different things. This thread alone is proof of that.

What are you talking about, I remember loads from school! Seriously, I state I don't remember one little thing and all of a sudden you seem to think I've got no memories at all of many years of my life...I remember many things, I've been talking about them throughout this thread.

Although not sure what you call long ago?

Given some of things you've said about what you did in school I've assumed that you're in your twenties, apologies if I'm wrong.

If you read back through your posts you may notice how many times you've said that you don't remember things you've studied or areas you've covered - it really is quite noticeable.

Given that the ages of posters probably covers a 40 year period, different parts of the UK and many different types of school, it's hardly surprising that people's experiences differ; that doesn't mean that the current National Curriculum doesn't impose a certain degree of uniformity over what's taught in state schools at the moment.

VestanPance

The point of education is to have a good level of knowledge on many subjects and an ability to think and develop beyond those. This is taken a step further in higher education where the curriculum has less spoon feeding and forces the student to go and research and think for themselves.

If you leave school unable to work out who you should vote for, taxation or any other simple task then the chances are you're an idiot that learned nothing other than how memorise things.

Flyonthewall

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Given some of things you've said about what you did in school I've assumed that you're in your twenties, apologies if I'm wrong.

If you read back through your posts you may notice how many times you've said that you don't remember things you've studied or areas you've covered - it really is quite noticeable.

Given that the ages of posters probably covers a 40 year period, different parts of the UK and many different types of school, it's hardly surprising that people's experiences differ; that doesn't mean that the current National Curriculum doesn't impose a certain degree of uniformity over what's taught in state schools at the moment.

Some people in their twenties will have left school over a decade ago. It may not be 30 or 40 years, but it's not like they've just walked out the school gates.

I've been talking about the same areas though. That being PSHE and the Victorian era. Which I do believe I have remembered correctly and I just did very little on it so while some people may think I slept through the lessons due to what I didn't learn on it I really didn't.

I was curious if I had any paperwork on the Victorian era, work I actually did and possible information (that I may not have ever read lol). However, I have an Amstrad CPC 464 in the way of where I keep all papers (because regardless of how many years it has been I just haven't ever bothered sorting and throwing any of it lol).

The National Curriculum only covers so much though, but it could be changed to cover more and state that all schools must be taught these other things. It could even be much stricter on exactly what should be taught within the areas.

Flyonthewall

VestanPance wrote: »

If you leave school unable to work out who you should vote for, taxation or any other simple task then the chances are you're an idiot that learned nothing other than how memorise things.

I don't think that's a fair statement as there are numerous reasons why people wouldn't know such things and plenty of adults who don't have a clue about taxes or about managing their finances! It's why on the employment board there are loads of people confused over tax issues and why this entire forum and the MSE site exist to help people manage their finances because, as you can see from many posts, there are plenty of people who clearly don't understand finances.

I suppose you could argue that they're all idiots, but then I think we need to start worrying about why we have so many idiots!

A lot of school is about memorising things though for exams. Far as assignments go, which can be a big percentage of a grade, you don't even need to do that.

pollypenny

onomatopoeia99 wrote: »

You cannot pass a Maths of Physics A level with memory (and you would have struggled with the O level as well). You have to be able to understand concepts and use that understanding to apply them to solve problems.

You cannot pass English Literature A-level on memory alone, either.

Student have to analyse previously unseen texts.