Don't stay in school

pickledonionspaceraider

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Going to university isn't just about (or shouldn't be just about) how much you earn. To think that it is shows how much education has been downvalued in our society.

I totally see your point.

Going to Uni was always suggested to my generation as a way of getting ahead of the rest, getting the best of careers and back then was the only way to do it

These days it has definitely devalued from what I can see, it seems to be the young ones leaving school and getting a foothold with a decent company and working their socks off - who seem to be progressing quickest though the career ranks - its just a personal observation

I agree, it isn't all about money, chasing a career based on the salary becomes boring quickly

pickledonionspaceraider

missbiggles1 wrote: »

Bloomin' heck, you must be even older than I am!

Possibly haha, back in my day at school, it was Maths or Science, no Physics and definatley no Maths of Physics. Just trying to work out what the Maths of Physics means spins my brain :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

For my era, school stopped after GSCEs or GCEs, then the smarter kids went off to further education colleges for O Levels and then on to Uni if they fancied it

Anatidaephobia

Flyonthewall wrote: »

Not to get into a whole debate about voting, but when people say they don't know who to vote for it's not always down to laziness.

You can know every single thing about all parties, but if you agree with some things and not others or you're not sure if the things you agree with will happen or another party is saying something that you may agree with if something else happens then deciding who to vote for is tough.

This is true and I agree.

The type of posts I was referring to (or can also be people I overhear discussing things in work) usually can't seem to decide who to vote for due to a lack of knowledge though. Several parties get dismissed completely because they know nothing about them, while others are known only by a massively simplified version of a single policy. A little time spent researching online could give them a much clearer idea of what each party or candidate stands for.

However, it's true they may still not know who to vote for but this time for the reasons you've explained above - but at least then they have made some effort and their reasons for not voting are more valid (IMHO).

Flyonthewall

Anatidaephobia wrote: »

I don't think it does have to be one or the other but I suppose it depends what you mean by "the important things" as I've already written a post explaining why I think tax should be taught in schools. As for things like voting, I've also posted about how my school taught about voting and held mock elections so that already happens.

I mean tax, voting, finance, among other things.

It happens at some schools.

See that's the problem, this thread is mostly about "I did this at school" or "I did that" and it clearly varies a lot with what schools have done or currently do.

There needs to be a system in place to make sure all schools are teaching the important things, not just random schools teaching random ones. They're all things everyone needs to know so everyone needs to be taught them all.

missbiggles1

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

Possibly haha, back in my day at school, it was Maths or Science, no Physics and definatley no Maths of Physics. Just trying to work out what the Maths of Physics means spins my brain :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

For my era, school stopped after GSCEs or GCEs, then the smarter kids went off to further education colleges for O Levels and then on to Uni if they fancied it

GCEs were O levels, GCSEs came later. All of them were taken at school.

pickledonionspaceraider

There are actually random schools teaching random subjects, it is actually happening and always has

For example child attending a religious school for example is receiving an extremely different education from one attending a regular comp - with church studies and Mass several times a week, you are missing out huge chunks of national curriculum

pickledonionspaceraider

missbiggles1 wrote: »

GCEs were O levels, GCSEs came later. All of them were taken at school.

A yes my bad, a typo, as you point out, A levels were taken at college, for the ones who wanted to go to further education

Elsewhere

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

Maths of Physics? I've never even heard of Maths of Physics so I am sure i would never pass that hahaha

A typo I know, but not as daft as it looks - there are textbooks for physic students with the essential mathematics they'll need and not the abstract stuff. In my very ancient student days this was the one we had...



The OP says
"In the song, you hear the lad going on about sedimentry rocks, atoms and so forth. I learned all about these subjects, and they have never been used at any point in my life."

Well, just because you didn't find them useful Rouge Peg, others did. I needed to know about atoms - I worked for the Atomic Energy Authority. I am interested in sedimentary rocks - I collect fossils and live on the Jurassic Coast. I run a car, too and if no-one bothered to learn about sedimentary rocks there'd be no-one to know where to drill for the oil to run it.

People mentioned Pythagoras's Theorem... My FIL was a builder - how would he work out the pitch of a roof without Pythagoras? Do you use a satnav? Then you are using Pythagoras's theorem too.

When I was at school there was very little emphasis put on the relevance of what we learned to real life. It wasn't until I went to Uni that many of the threads from science and maths came together and I understood their interdependence. You learn about differential equations in maths and years later you discover that they describe how a radio tuning curcuit works, for instance. Or about centripetal force and one day it dawns on you that's what keeps a satellite in orbit.

Sadly it sounds as if that hasn't changed at all.

mgdavid

Rouge_peg wrote: »

.........
Saint John's ambulance can teach him. As a parent, having basic first aid as part of the curriculum would be more beneficial for the children, instead of learning about Victorian England. Do you agree?

Strongly disagree.
First aid, if wanted, can be taught or arranged to be taught, by the child's parent(s) or guardian or other responsible adult..

mgdavid

pickledonionspaceraider wrote: »

A yes my bad, a typo, as you point out, A levels were taken at college, for the ones who wanted to go to further education

No, A levels were taught and taken at school as well. That's what the sixth form was for, back in the days before Comprehensive education ruined everything.
Ha, 'Comprehensive education', an untruth if ever there was one.