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Charity fraud - how long?

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  • asajj
    asajj Posts: 5,125 Forumite
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    Perhaps there are just malicious people within the organisation to who have nothing better to do that stir up trouble, If it was serious and true then no doubt the said charity would be taking action.

    Well directors can commit fraud and they won't take action against them.

    OP, are there no trustees? Is this charity not audited?

    You need to inform the police with evidence.
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  • ben_m_g
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    asajj wrote: »
    Well directors can commit fraud and they won't take action against them.

    OP, are there no trustees? Is this charity not audited?

    You need to inform the police with evidence.

    There is a committee, however they meet to a schedule that is not public and their names are not listed on the companies website.

    My friend and I have spoken about this at some length, my impression and his opinion is that the charity would be very keen to hide these issues if it keeps their reputation.

    I will suggest for him to go to the police, however I imagine the response will be as before, the manager is very vindictive he told me that they had an internal anonymous survey where the manager was trying to match hand written (negative) comments to employee reports.

    He hasn't been there two years and is afraid of loosing his job.
  • Mistral001
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    ben_m_g wrote: »
    There is a committee, however they meet to a schedule that is not public and their names are not listed on the companies website


    I assume you mean the charity's website rather than "companies website". It is not unusual for committee's to not put names of their members on websites so as to prevent them from getting contacted by cold callers etc. Also committees do not usually have any obligations to inform anybody outside of the committee of when they are meeting.
  • Goldiegirl
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    ben_m_g wrote: »
    Much of this is easy to prove (card statements etc) but I am disappointed that despite my efforts, no visible action has taken place (it would be very clear if anything had been said internally) and more transgressions have been allowed to happen.




    How do you know that invisible action hasn't been taken?


    With this sort of thing, investigators aren't going to run around drawing attention to themselves, as it'd tip people off that their scam has been rumbled.


    There may be action being taken in the background that you are not aware of
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  • ben_m_g
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    Goldiegirl wrote: »
    How do you know that invisible action hasn't been taken?


    With this sort of thing, investigators aren't going to run around drawing attention to themselves, as it'd tip people off that their scam has been rumbled.


    There may be action being taken in the background that you are not aware of

    I of course considered this and told my friend to be on the lookout for any visitors (he sits by the door anyway) likewise if the manager is called away or if the committee or higher ups suddenly turn up.

    None of that has happened, although that in itself is not proof of inaction. Any investigation would require visits to the office itself (paper records are stored there and nowhere else) .

    The point is that it was reported, and it was reported again that another incident was in progress.
    With sufficient evidence from the first report I cannot see why a body to prevent these sorts of actions did nothing to stop a reoccurrence.
  • asajj
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    I assume you have used this service?

    http://www.charityfraudline.co.uk/ or this http://www.actionfraud.police.uk/charities

    Charities and members of the public who are concerned about an organisation or an individual purporting to be involved in not for profit activities can report their concerns to the Charity Commission. However, if they are concerned that a fraud has been committed and that there has been a financial loss, they can also report their experience to Action Fraud.
    ally.
  • Savvy_Sue
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    ben_m_g wrote: »
    There is a committee, however they meet to a schedule that is not public and their names are not listed on the companies website.
    they will be listed on the Charities Commission website. Names only, but a little detective work should be possible.
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