A bit like a Robin Cook novel . .

ognum

LilElvis wrote: »

Pretty irrelevant if someone has been sterilised.

Thank you for your comment but you are wrong it is relevant

OP suggests that her sister felt she was not getting feelings of ovulating each month just every other month, this would not happen because despite being sterilised she would still produce and egg from her single ovary each month and get the usual symptoms.

Person_one

ognum wrote: »

Thank you for your comment but you are wrong it is relevant

OP suggests that her sister felt she was not getting feelings of ovulating each month just every other month, this would not happen because despite being sterilised she would still produce and egg from her single ovary each month and get the usual symptoms.

Yes, I believe this is why women who have had one ovary removed are more likely to have an early menopause.

OldMotherTucker

FBaby wrote: »

The issue here is not about being able to get pregnant, it is about whether they had two ovaries before the op, and only one now, and if so why.

I also understand that even with one ovary, they would take over and release an egg each month rather than every other, but don't know if that is the case if born with one and whether it would be the case too in the case of one being removed.

In any case, it is very odd indeed. The only reasonable explanation was that they discovered something on the ovary, a cyst or something that the clinician felt justified the removal of the ovary, and that was explained to her after the ops, but they didn't take it in then due to drugs or exhaustion or forgot about it.

My SIL approached the Gp several times because it really preyed on her mind - and still does nearly 30 years on. He maintained that there was nothing to indicate an extra procedure and no follow up. She has accessed her medical records records since.

No one ever took her seriously because of the PND and TBH she was always a bit too alternative' even back then:Too open about talking about her body and her feelings for a lot of people to cope with - we were both brought up in strict religious families where periods were called the curse - and treated as such:( Good wives conceived immaculately :rotfl:

No one can pretend that there haven't been incidents like this in the past - or that successes in medical advancement haven't been preceded by an awful lot of failures.

OldMotherTucker

LilElvis wrote: »

OP - "they" would have had no ulterior motive in removing an ovary as it would have been of no use to them.

Ovarian grafting did not exist 30 years ago, it is a very recent development. In any case it is used primarily to preserve a woman's fertility prior to cancer treatment - I have never heard of ovarian tissue being donated to another woman.

Ovaries contain immature eggs - of no use whatsoever in IVF treatment.

There won't have been any nefarious reason for a doctor to remove an ovary.

How did we learn that eggs couldn't be stimulated outside the body?
How did we perfect grafting techniques?

Person_one

OldMotherTucker wrote: »

How did we learn that eggs couldn't be stimulated outside the body?
How did we perfect grafting techniques?

Definitely not by stealing ovaries from women getting sterilised.

Not entirely sure if you're joking here, but I hope so! :cool:

Hard_Up_Hester

I had a scan in my 50's and one of my ovaries had 'disappeared' the Dr mentioned it and asked if I knew why,maybe I'd only ever had one, I also had an ectopic pregnancy & a c-section, maybe it got lost during one of these.

OldMotherTucker

Person_one wrote: »

Definitely not by stealing ovaries from women getting sterilised.

Not entirely sure if you're joking here, but I hope so! :cool:

I honestly don't know what to think!

LilElvis

OldMotherTucker wrote: »

How did we learn that eggs couldn't be stimulated outside the body?
How did we perfect grafting techniques?

They certainly didn't need to experiment on your sil to know it. Follicular stimulation in IVF treatment to take an egg to maturity takes 10+ days in a living ovary. Hardly rocket science that it isn't going to work on an ovary which has been removed and has no blood supply.

LilElvis

OldMotherTucker wrote: »

How did we learn that eggs couldn't be stimulated outside the body?
How did we perfect grafting techniques?

Ovarian grafting is used to preserve fertility in women facing a premature menopause or cancer treatment. The tissue is removed, frozen and then grafted back into the woman - NOT into a second woman. A woman would not have use for grafted tissue from a donor - they would use donor eggs, a totally different treatment. Receiving a graft from a donor would also require anti-rejection drugs with all the risks this would entail.

They perfected the technique by practicing on primates.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

the worst that could have happened is that in the process of clipping the tube, the surgeon inadvertantly nicked something, so took it out to deal with the bleeding - or he found a teratoma forming, which would have resulted in pain and a further operation later, so took it out to save her the trauma. It's not as if she needed to preserve fertility and there was a second functioning ovary on the other side, so there would be no need for hormone replacement.

It's medically a non issue, so she needs counselling, not anything else.