New housing estate social housing

nickyg2000

Tbh done a couple of reckys at night and the area seems ok in terms of no yoves hanging out! You can tell a few houses are housing association but they must all have little kids! It's odd seems to be very expensive houses mercs,bmws next to shameless types lol like some social engineering project! I don't doubt there are a couple of problem family's but equally just some poor nice peps as well!

Jon_B_2

nickyg2000 wrote: »

Tbh done a couple of reckys at night and the area seems ok in terms of no yoves hanging out! You can tell a few houses are housing association but they must all have little kids! It's odd seems to be very expensive houses mercs,bmws next to shameless types lol like some social engineering project! I don't doubt there are a couple of problem family's but equally just some poor nice peps as well!

Just FYI. Little kids don't stay as little kids forever.

Davesnave

Established areas are always a safer bet, but it only takes one oddball family moving in next door to spoil an otherwise pleasant living environment, and that can happen anywhere.

Often, those displaying the most conspicuous signs of consumption are the biggest !!!!!s of all.

Norman_Castle

nickyg2000 wrote: »

Tbh done a couple of reckys at night and the area seems ok in terms of no yoves hanging out! You can tell a few houses are housing association but they must all have little kids! It's odd seems to be very expensive houses mercs,bmws next to shameless types lol like some social engineering project! I don't doubt there are a couple of problem family's but equally just some poor nice peps as well!

If you had seen yoves when you did your reckys how would you know if they were from problem family's and not from family's of poor nice peps?.

Pixie5740

TBeckett100 wrote: »

I'd give it a miss.

If they work they'll tend to be shift workers and therefore clunky old cars or vans will Fire up. In summer they'll have their kids in the garden or hanging about when there are older and one will have a yappie dog.

Also you'll be up going to work in the dark seeing their curtains drawn knowing your tax is paying largely for them to live subsidised in the same house as you.

Avoid at all costs. Social housing should just be built in areas away from private homes

Children playing in the garden!!! Whatever next?!!! :eek:

Curtains drawn in the morning? Could it be shift workers (shift workers like doctors, nurses, engineers) who have just come off nightshift or is it because the occupiers don't work? Make up your mind.

OP I think it's best that you and TBeckett100 avoid living anywhere near people who rent their homes. Nobody wants to live next to a pair of snobs like you.

fashionvictim

Next door to not ideal, but all new builds seem to have Housing association properties. And private landlords can rent to council tenants- like my neighbours here - messy garden and inside the house yuk.
Very tricky, they are fine, the kids are lovely. They just live differently to me.

You cannot control other people. My friend lives next to a hoarder in a extremely expensive road in wimbledon...

Why are they selling after only 2 years seems quite quick?

I would not buy next to a problem if it stresses you now, but you cannot control who moves in and out.

AlexMac

There are another 40 posts on this topic at
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/68994801#Comment_68994801

(mine's #4; and...
having been brought up myself on a South London Council estate without turning into feral scum, and having kids and grand daughters who bought into an ex-council street which was 50-50 public/private who still don't wear their hats backward, you can guess which way my 'prejudice-ometer' swings? As somone says above, visit the area at weekends and at night to pick up the vibe in the 'hood, and apply common sense.) Good luck!

Marvel1

Lived in my street for 25 years, 18 years childhood and bought a house (price mainly, but advantage knowing quiet street). Anyway house couple doors down, rented to 3 young people 2/3 years ago, Police at least once a week, apparently them and my next rented next door neighbours fighting. The 2 previous renters next door were great, never heard them.

Thankfully the landlord of the house couple of doors evicted them, don't hear much from next door neighbour for the last couple of months.

TBeckett100 wrote: »

In summer they'll have their kids in the garden

I know right, private owned homes have their kids stay in and play video games and watch TV all day

Pixie5740 wrote: »

OP I think it's best that you and TBeckett100 avoid living anywhere near people who rent their homes. Nobody wants to live next to a pair of snobs like you.

They could just live next door to each other in the countryside with no-one else near them for miles.

nickyg2000

The house ajoined to the one we plan to buy is a lovely lady in her 50s. The house the other side not a joining is housing association. The plan shows affordable housing but you can spot shared ownership over rented a mile off. My concern is if a problem family move in next door we won't be able to sell it.

C_Mababejive

I must be psychic but only a few hours ago i was composing a starter on this very subject but then deleted for various reasons.

Fact is that it is the modern way on many inner city brownfield sites to merge private and social housing in one big development.

Heres how it goes. Councils have land which are legacy assets from the days when councils were direct landlords. They may well still have viable homes on that land.

Step one. Councils tranfer all their housing stock to arms length management companies . The new company becomes the owner/manager of the homes. The law then allows them to borrow money for development.

Step two. They form a partnership with a builder be it some of the big names eg Barratts, gleeson, keepmoat,,they are all big players in this game.

Step three. Arms length housing company does deal to make land available at preferential rates as long as builder builds social housing as well as private. All the houses are of the same spec.

Social landlord, in its new guise as an arms length housing company, rents the houses out. It could well be that they are rented to a mix of people but preference is given to those people who used to live in the now demolished homes.

Houses are also sold privately, usually on Government backed help to buy schemes.

An example of one such scheme is here..

Salford city council used to own and rent old school council housing.

One of their new arms length owner/landlord/management companies is called

http://www.pendletontogether.co.uk/

A huge tract of land in pendleton has recently been cleared of viable ex council homes for development as above.

Pendleton together will act as owner/manager of the new pseudo private rented homes (really social housing).

Meanwhile their building partner is keepmoat who will sell the private ones

http://www.pendletonone.co.uk/

I was around there recently. The area is not the best and even though only a small part has been built, i already saw some scroats.

Now the queston is,, do hard working families want to sign up to a mortgage to buy a new home in what is essentially a council estate,be part of someones big social experiment and live with people who have been gifted a new home for nothing (assuming they get HB),maybe dont work..whilst THEY go out to work every day and sweat to pay a mortgage for exactly the same thing?

Maybe some people are ok with that, i dont know..

I'd prefer to play safe and try to buy in an area where there are more like minded people similar to myself.