Smoke Detector mandatory for sprinklered property?

chris_m

thesaint wrote: »

Such nonsense.

Right, the ball's back in your court.

Either show us documented evidence that alarms are not required for properties fitted with sprinklers to meet the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm(England) Regulations 2015, which make it perfectly clear that they must be fitted and provide no exceptions - or man up and admit that you are wrong.

Mojisola

Megadebtor wrote: »

Hi, I was wondering if anyone can clarify the new smoke and CO alarm regs. please.

I own a tenanted flat, which is sprinklered throughout.

Does anyone know if I also need a smoke alarm on every level?

Why would you not want to provide these anyway?

Don't you have smoke alarms in your own house?

thesaint

chris_m wrote: »

Right, the ball's back in your court.

Either show us documented evidence that alarms are not required for properties fitted with sprinklers to meet the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm(England) Regulations 2015,

Could you show me where sprinklers are mentioned in the legislation?

chris_m wrote: »

which make it perfectly clear that they must be fitted and provide no exceptions

It's scary that there is a part of the legislation called "Excluded Tenancies", and yet you make this unequivocal statement.

The advice in this thread is shocking.

chris_m

thesaint wrote: »

Could you show me where sprinklers are mentioned in the legislation?

They are not

It's scary that there is a part of the legislation called "Excluded Tenancies", and yet you make this unequivocal statement.

OK, IF it were a long lease then the property would be excluded.

The advice in this thread is shocking.

Since you are obviously such an expert would it not be more useful to advise people properly with appropriate references instead of just making glib statements like this?
I, and I'm sure others, really would like to know.

thesaint

thesaint wrote: »

Could you show me where sprinklers are mentioned in the legislation?

chris_m wrote: »

They are not

So the mention of sprinklers is irrelevant. Glad that's sorted out at last.

chris_m wrote: »

OK, IF it were a long lease then the property would be excluded.

I can only imagine that you haven't read the section, as there are many exclusions. Yet not long ago you were adamant there were none.

chris_m wrote: »

Since you are obviously such an expert

I thank you for the compliment, but I prefer "likes" as that is king on this forum.

chris_m wrote: »

would it not be more useful to advise people properly with appropriate references instead of just making glib statements like this?

The OP has a tenanted flat, and wants to know whether it is mandatory for his sprinklered property to have a smoke alarm on every level.

I said that not enough information has been given.

Sadly, the OP has been given advice thinking it is correct and gone off not knowing that he should have been questioned further.

G_M

thesaint wrote: »

I can only imagine that you haven't read the section, as there are many exclusions. Yet not long ago you were adamant there were none.

The OP has a tenanted flat, and wants to know whether it is mandatory for his sprinklered property to have a smoke alarm on every level.

I said that not enough information has been given.

Your intial response was

Quick is no good when the advice is incorrect.

which as I said is a

critical but unhelpful responses.

If you had genuinely wished to help the OP with his query you should have asked for the additional information required.

Even your 2nd post "not enough information has been given." was designed to counter critisism of yourself, rather than provide a helpful answer for the OP.

thesaint

Thanks for the heartfelt apology, hopefully others will take your lead.