Smoke Detector mandatory for sprinklered property?

Megadebtor

Hi, I was wondering if anyone can clarify the new smoke and CO alarm regs. please.

I own a tenanted flat, which is sprinklered throughout.

Does anyone know if I also need a smoke alarm on every level? I have been looking for more detailed information about the new smoke alarm and CO regulations but cannot find anything that mentions residential properties with sprinkler systems. Thanks

Gonzo1987

You still need a smoke alarm on each level to comply with the regulations i'm afraid. I went through this with a solicitor last week. I will try find the wording for you.

charliewocka

A smoke detector will alert you to the initial stages of fire and give you early warning. Sprinklers will control a fire and prevent it from spreading. For a sprinkler head to operate the gasses at ceiling level will need to have built up to about 70 degrees which is a sizeable fire and a lot of by products will have been released at that stage.

Megadebtor

Thank you guys for the quick reply.

thesaint

Gonzo1987 wrote: »

You still need a smoke alarm on each level to comply with the regulations i'm afraid. I went through this with a solicitor last week. I will try find the wording for you.

Megadebtor wrote: »

Thank you guys for the quick reply.

Quick is no good when the advice is incorrect.

G_M

It never ceases to amaze me why an apparantly intelligent and well-informed person should post critical but unhelpful responses.

anselld

thesaint wrote: »

Quick is no good when the advice is incorrect.

Please explain where there is an exception for sprinkler fitted properties in the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm(England) Regulations 2015?

G_M

Quick is no good when the advice is incorrect.

anselld wrote: »

Please explain where there is an exception for sprinkler fitted properties in the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm(England) Regulations 2015?

This may not have been a comment on the topic under discussion, more of a philosophical point. With which, of course, one has to agree.

thesaint

G_M wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me why an apparantly intelligent and well-informed person should post critical but unhelpful responses.

I shall assume that this comment is aimed at me.

For the record, I am neither intelligent or informed, so use this as a reference to contextualise my response.

anselld wrote: »

Please explain where there is an exception for sprinkler fitted properties in the Smoke and Carbon Monoxide Alarm(England) Regulations 2015?

You are asking me to prove a negative?

I shall bat it back. Show me where the presence of a sprinkler requires a smoke or carbon monoxide alarm

chris_m

thesaint wrote: »

You are asking me to prove a negative?
I shall bat it back. Show me where the presence of a sprinkler requires a smoke or carbon monoxide alarm

There is no need to show anything - in the absence of any exceptions included in them, the regulations are perfectly clear. Smoke/CO alarms MUST be fitted.

In any case, it makes perfect sense to fit them - as a previous poster pointed out, sprinklers only trip when their sensors reach a certain temperature. Before that happens it's perfectly possible for sufficient noxious gases to have incapacitated the occupants, or worse..

thesaint

chris_m wrote: »

There is no need to show anything - in the absence of any exceptions included in them, the regulations are perfectly clear. Smoke/CO alarms MUST be fitted.

Such nonsense.
There is not enough information given to state that any alarms are required.
It's a shame incorrect information masquerading as good advice is given out and people being misled in this thread.

But, looking at all the "likes" handed out, it's what the people want hey? :money: