Landlord wants to renew for another 12 months

G_M

When they reply (which they will, urging/threatening you to sign), don't respond.

If/when they follow up, stall: " My partner has the contract and is on away on work" (or some such cr*p).

If you actually say yes, or no, you get pushed into a corner. You can 'lose' the contract and need a replacement sent. You can say it's in the post (last resort). Whatever.

The day after your current 12 month fixed term ends, you will automatically have a new tenancy - either a Contractual or Statutory Periodic Tenancy.

thesaint

The usual bias has shown in this thread.
It is possible that the landlord has real reasons for wanting/requiring a fixed term for their tenant.

Cherry_Bomb

I feel like an idiot now. Agent has already replied saying the LL prefers 12 month tenancies but they'll ask them about a periodic and get back to me ��

nidO

thesaint wrote: »

The usual bias has shown in this thread.
It is possible that the landlord has real reasons for wanting/requiring a fixed term for their tenant.

I'm a landlord, and I can't think of many. Yeah, i'd *prefer* a 12 month contract over not, I get a reasonable guarantee that i'm going to have a tenant for the next 12 months so can budget accordingly and my tenant gets the security that they're not likely to be booted out or have their rent increased for the next year.

That said, if a tenant prefers to be on a periodic tenancy, I can't think of any reason i'd want to kick them out and have the hassle of finding someone else for a new fixed 12 months.

The bias shown in this thread is against letting agents, and with good reason. Agents are nothing if not universal in their attempts to glean fees from both tenants and landlords at every opportunity, and writing to both the tenant and the landlord at the end of a 12 month tenancy asking if they'd like a new 12 month tenancy or to vacate the property/ask the tenant to vacate, conveniently totally neglecting to mention the option exists to do neither and move to a periodic, hoping that neither the tenant or landlord knows any better, is about the most common scam of all pulled by lettings agents.

Poppy9

I am a LL but I don't use a LA. My tenants are on their third 12 month TA but if they didn't want to sign for 12 months I would accept a shorter period as they are great tenants and I would prefer them to be up front about their intentions and for us to part on good terms.


I don't charge my tenants to renew although the option is there in the TA I just strike through it.


Would your LL want a rent increase for a shorter tenancy?

fashionvictim

Cherry_Bomb wrote: »

Problem is we're hoping to buy somewhere next Summer so don't want to be tied in for another year.

When will you be ready to start viewing properties to buy?

It will take ages to get through all the paperwork when you find somewhere. And then you have to get your offer accepted. Once agreed you will need at least 3 months IF no chain. Much Longer if there's a chain or something happens like someone can't get a mortgage etc

I think you could sign for another 12 months and it would be no problem with your plan to buy anyway

Can't believe it costs 60 quid for staying put- cheeky !

Also gives you time to save more...honestly you can never have enough when buying ... I'm living on beans to save my stamp duty !!

mrginge

The risk with ignoring things is that a month or two down the line the LL gets fed up of asking you and starts eviction procedings. Then you end up having to find somewhere else for a short period or have to delay your prospective purchase.

The best thing to do is spell out your position now and then if the LL insists on 12 months you still have time to move out and get a six month somewhere else without impacting on your plans for next year

stator

Cherry_Bomb wrote: »

I feel like an idiot now. Agent has already replied saying the LL prefers 12 month tenancies but they'll ask them about a periodic and get back to me ��

You need to contact the LL yourself if you can.
The LA make money out of you renewing. The Landlord may prefer a rolling tenancy. The LA will always prefer you to renew and may lie to get their fees.

hels234

Hi, another LL here, my current tenants are on a rolling tenancy as neither of us wanted to pay another set of fees! They contacted me as the agent had said I'd insisted on them signing or they'd be out! - liars! The tenants are great and I'm quite happy with good tenants and a rolling tenancy rather than them being pi**ed of and leaving due to fees (my agent charges £75 to renew!) This was my first property and in hindsight I wouldn't let an agent manage my property again.

thesaint

nidO wrote: »

I'm a landlord, and I can't think of many.

Again, showing the bias. No one mentioned "many" reasons.

nidO wrote: »

Agents are nothing if not universal in their attempts to glean fees from both tenants and landlords at every opportunity, and writing to both the tenant and the landlord at the end of a 12 month tenancy asking if they'd like a new 12 month tenancy or to vacate the property/ask the tenant to vacate, conveniently totally neglecting to mention the option exists to do neither and move to a periodic, hoping that neither the tenant or landlord knows any better, is about the most common scam of all pulled by lettings agents.

And to further cement the point.