Making a "fake" asylum application to secure accomodation

Pixie5740

I might be naive here as I am fortunate enough never to have found myself in your position OP but is it the council that has to home you? If you are homeless and unemployed are there not several benefits available to you that you could use to rent in the private sector? I know it's not easy to find a landlord willing to take on someone on benefits but there must be a few out there.

The local authority might be building more homes but don't forget that those in council homes, and now housing association properties as well, have the right to buy them so the supply isn't necessarily increasing.

aaaaa11111

[QUOTE=csgohan4;69375334
Putting it bluntly, you only have yourself to blame for your position and it is up to you do something about it. It isn't anyone's fault but yours.

I also note you haven't been the quite the model citizen either
'I earned a few quid, maybe off the record, but I did not burden the state.'

you now find yourself out of pocket and wanting someone to blame, i.e the Asylum seekers.
.[/QUOTE]

You are completely wrong. I have not blamed anybody, least of all "asylum seekers".

MobileSaver wrote: »

So you didn't pay your fair share of taxes when you were doing OK but now you're struggling you want the State to support you? You couldn't make it up.

Possibly that 500,000 Somalians have died since the war began? Do you think that may account for a huge number of single mothers or do your racist prejudices blind you to such a reality?

I paid my fair share of taxes, for over 35 years. I didn't defraud anyone. I don't want the state to support me. I simply want access to the safety net I was led to believe was there, and was paying towards, but never used, because I used my initiative.

You do realise there is a property boom in Somalia ? Don't you ?

Racist? You don't know me. For all I know, you my freind could be a card carrying BNP member. I don't know you are not. When things take place, and they do not fit your worldview, it is not "racist" to address them. I guess addressing the topic of say, FGM, would also be "racist".

cloo wrote: »

I do feel sorry for the OP's plight... but I also feel, aaaa1111 (etc), Asylum seekers get nothing. They cannot work. They cannot get benefits. They certainly cannot get social housing.

Thanks. I know all of that, but my understanding is that an asylum claim will result in immediate temporary accomodation. Legally they cannot work, and legally they cannot claim benefits and so on, but of course, the real world is shades of grey. Over the years, I have known people here waiting for ILR and at the time I never discussed too much other than what they voulenteered, but I know they were working in the undercover economy.

aaaaa11111

deannatrois wrote:

I am trying to forget the rasicst ignorance in your thread. I shouldn't, its rather a huge effort, but I guess I'll pretend Christmas has come early and be kinder in my attitude to you than you are to the world in general. Maybe this has some bearing on where you find yourself (oops I guess some of it slipped out there).

Actually, you know nothing about me, but thanks for your erronous assumptions, based on a single post at my frustration about they system. Hope it makes you feel nice and smug.

AdrianC

aaaaa11111 wrote: »

but my understanding is that an asylum claim will result in immediate temporary accomodation.

For many people, walking into any kind of officialdom and presenting a claim for asylum will result in accommodation, yes.

In Yarl's Wood, Harmondsworth or similar "detention centres".

Bear in mind that the conditions in those centres are markedly worse than those in prisons.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27332370

tomtontom

OP if you want help then give a factual account of your situation on the benefits board. I would do this under a new username because otherwise this thread will be picked up on.

Alternatively if you just want a rant then continue posting your bigoted little views.

It's going to be a very cold winter, I know which option I would choose.

theartfullodger

Defo kipper wind up: Nice try but, as so often, not that bri.....

Cheers!

AdrianC

theartfullodger wrote: »

Defo kipper wind up

And, of course, the irony is that the UK's asylum policy has nothing to do with the EU. It's all to do with our membership of the UN, and our signature on the UN conventions on the rights of refugees.

If the EU did have a single policy and process for receiving asylum claims and processing them, then we wouldn't be seeing this whole ridiculous traipsing around various countries and closures of borders.The one thing that is standardised is the test to determine if somebody is a genuine refugee or not - and the answer to that is respected by all EU countries, so there's no actual point in "asylum shopping".

NewShadow

Pixie5740 wrote: »

I might be naive here as I am fortunate enough never to have found myself in your position OP but is it the council that has to home you? If you are homeless and unemployed are there not several benefits available to you that you could use to rent in the private sector?

I would actually really appreciate the OP responding to this point - if you don't mind OP?

As I understand, you are over 50, and have worked all your life - I therefore presume you are entitled to either JSA or State pension (with any applicable top-ups based on your personal circumstance)

Given JSA is (or at least was) a 'passport' benefit, this should mean you're also entitled to LHA and possible contribution towards council tax (depending on how the area you live in works).

You currently have a postal address, so shouldn't have a problem getting a JSA claim started, and your builder friends in the area should know of decent contractor digs (generally cheap and available), and if one of them agrees to make the intro/vouch for you, the landlord of these digs should be willing to give you a chance.

Why, therefore, will you be homeless over the winter?