Making a "fake" asylum application to secure accomodation

TBeckett100

OP, just realised you are already one step closer to being a refugee. You are homeless with a mobile phone. I've lost count of the numbers of men being interviewed on TV after losing their wife and child on a rubber dingy but have managed to keep hold of their mobile phone

Doozergirl

TBeckett100 wrote: »

OP, just realised

You know that line? You just crossed it.

Jim_Jupiter

TBeckett100 wrote: »

OP, just realised you are already one step closer to being a refugee. You are homeless with a mobile phone. I've lost count of the numbers of men being interviewed on TV after losing their wife and child on a rubber dingy but have managed to keep hold of their mobile phone

If only their wife and child would fit in someone's pocket.

seven-day-weekend

I too think British Citizens should be prioritised for social housing over someone without a British passport.

I'm not suggesting we leave these people without shelter, but it does not have to be social housing. Surely if they are refugees, a safe hostel is better than what they had before?

csgohan4

OP has been reading too much 'Daily Mail/ The Sun/ Daily mirror'. Or perhaps too much 'How to get a council house' on channel 4.


We are not the number one for taking in refugees/ asylum seekers, Germany and Austria are believe it or not. The tabloids and media in general blow out of proportion what the UK does for asylum seekers.


What it doesn't mention is the many people on benefits who have been on them for generations and trying to get their way out of work, while those 'Immigrants' do the work the British do and complain they are taking away the British jobs.


Council has limited housing and have to prioritise those with children, medical/ mental illness e.t.c.


Instead of complaining, get some resolve and resilience and aim for something useful, than waste your time ranting on her and reading drivel the 'The Sun'.


Putting it bluntly, you only have yourself to blame for your position and it is up to you do something about it. It isn't anyone's fault but yours.


I also note you haven't been the quite the model citizen either
'I earned a few quid, maybe off the record, but I did not burden the state.'


Whether you earned benefits, it is your right if your eligible and you now find yourself out of pocket and wanting someone to blame, i.e the Asylum seekers.


I am not sure if your trolling, but either way good luck to yourself and ensure you improve yourself and never stay stagnant in life or you will be left behind.

csgohan4

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

I too think British Citizens should be prioritised for social housing over someone without a British passport.

I'm not suggesting we leave these people without shelter, but it does not have to be social housing. Surely if they are refugees, a safe hostel is better than what they had before?

While your statement sounds reasonable, there is a shortage of housing and are you expecting a British single male/female to get a room over a refugee with children who has fled war?


There had to be a humanitarian way of rationing housing and unfortunately it had to be done this way. You also risk the wrath of EU rules and U.N conventions. It could be the UK has their hands tied because of regulations.


Benefits are my biggest bugbear, whoever it is given, it must be used for those in need. Therefore it should be in the form vouchers to be used only for food, clothing, books e.t.c. Not Sky, cars over a certain price, cigarettes, Alcohol, all of which are luxuries.


I also disagree with the government giving so much aid overseas, although I suspect it is politically motivated to get more trade in return e.t.c. The money should be used for British citizens first, at least something the Government has control of.

AdrianC

TBeckett100 wrote: »

And where the hell is Eritrea?

More or less right next door to Somalia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Eritrea

csgohan4

The topic of refugees/immigrants taking all our jobs, benefits, housing is all relative to be honest.


It boils down to how you view life and how you move forward in life to. If your happy to be stuck at the bottom of the ladder, happy to live off the state, then they should not complain when the government cuts their benefits and child benefit to 2 children only.


They should have made an effort to genuinely find work than give the excuse of they get more on benefits than working. Which leads to the Government cutting down on the tax credits to negate this. You shouldn't earn more on benefits than working.


There should be an incentive to earn more and better yourself in life, the sooner one realises this the better. Social improvement and being able to provide more for your family.


(Of course those who are out of work through no fault of their own e.g medical/ mental fair enough they deserve everything they need to lead a normal life)


Being on benefits sometimes is a choice and this is where the problem lies. Comments such as 'Me mam was on benefits so am I', kind of tell the true story.


Where has the British nature of being the best and improving gone? Has it truly been lost with all the cynism and blaming others instead of yourself culture?

AdrianC

csgohan4 wrote: »

(Of course those who are out of work through no fault of their own e.g medical/ mental fair enough they deserve everything they need to lead a normal life)

And there is a separate safety net in place to help those people.

Except that there's a lot of lead-swingers who try to claim they're unfit for work, when they know damn well they aren't, which leads to investigations into the accuracy of all claims, which the genuinely unfit claim are overly intrusive...

At the end of the day, the government of this country - even after six years of "austerity" - is still spending about £70bn/year more than it receives in income. Rough numbers, almost 10% over-spend. Not quite as bad as in the depths, when the figure was nearly twice that, but still hardly great. If it posted over on DFW it'd be slapped firmly and told it needed the light-bulb moment...

These figures are a few year sold, but the general split hasn't changed very much...

[Deleted User]

Wait til you are in one of those groups Adrian, and then you'll find the safety net is more described by its holes than its substance.