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stinky_daddy
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Hi All
Not too sure where the best forum might be for this, so feel free to move it accordingly.
am after some advice please?
Several months ago, I fell and broke my leg during a scuffle (am a doorman as a second job), and have been told by my consultant to start walking on it again shortly.
I have spoken to my boss (2nd job), who told me that as I am self-employed and therefore he isn't liable for any claim (didn't have any personal injury insurance), however, after several months off I am now almost completely out of money (strange how the bills don't stop even though your income does).
My main job is not paying me (quite rightly I feel, as the injury occurred whilst somewhere else and not actually working for them).
Therefore, do I have grounds to claim against my 2nd job boss / his insurance at all?
TIA
s_d
Not too sure where the best forum might be for this, so feel free to move it accordingly.
am after some advice please?
Several months ago, I fell and broke my leg during a scuffle (am a doorman as a second job), and have been told by my consultant to start walking on it again shortly.
I have spoken to my boss (2nd job), who told me that as I am self-employed and therefore he isn't liable for any claim (didn't have any personal injury insurance), however, after several months off I am now almost completely out of money (strange how the bills don't stop even though your income does).
My main job is not paying me (quite rightly I feel, as the injury occurred whilst somewhere else and not actually working for them).
Therefore, do I have grounds to claim against my 2nd job boss / his insurance at all?
TIA
s_d
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"why is that frisbee getting bigger?"
...and then it hits me
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Jesus loves you...A nice thing to hear in church, but a horrible thing to hear in a Mexican prison
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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If you are a doorman are you not licensed?
You must have some kind of insurance cover surely?
Either via the Agency or you should have it yourself?
Not only in case of injury to yourself but to cover you/agency in the event of you causing injury to someone?
Do they pay you after taking off Tax/NI? Or are you given a sum and have to declare it yourself for Tax/NI purposes?Think of all the beauty still left around you and be happy - Anne Frank :A0 -
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Hi, sorry to hear about your predicament.
I would say that as you are self employed in the 2nd job, you are essentially sub-contracted to them and so should really have your own insurance to cover yourself, public liability etc, that sort of thing, I would have thought your second job employer would have to check you had this before employing your services.
Yes, you are right regarding your main employer not being liable, as you were not working for them at the time of the incident, you were supplying your services on a self employed basis to a second party.
May be a harsh lesson learned I'm afraid, but others may have better advice.0 -
I would say that as you are self employed in the 2nd job, you are essentially sub-contracted to them and so should really have your own insurance to cover yourself, public liability etc, that sort of thing, I would have thought your second job employer would have to check you had this before employing your services.
Thanks.
The 2nd employer has public liability, so I have no need to proivde it, so I was told by him.
The question is whether (or not) I should be looking to claim from his insurance (presumably employer liability insurance), or whether, as a contracted person, he would not be liable.
Are self-employed contractors able to make claims against their employers?
TIA
s_dSometimes I wonder...
"why is that frisbee getting bigger?"
...and then it hits me
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Jesus loves you...A nice thing to hear in church, but a horrible thing to hear in a Mexican prison
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.0 -
If you are truly sub-contracted then I think it would depend on the circumstances.
For example if a sub-contractor was injured on a building site as a result of the Contractor's negligence then I would say yes.Think of all the beauty still left around you and be happy - Anne Frank :A0 -
stinky_daddy wrote: »Thanks.
The 2nd employer has public liability, so I have no need to proivde it, so I was told by him.
The question is whether (or not) I should be looking to claim from his insurance (presumably employer liability insurance), or whether, as a contracted person, he would not be liable.
Are self-employed contractors able to make claims against their employers?
TIA
s_d
What concerns me is you calling them "my boss" and "their employers"...are you really self employed? I'd never call my client the boss.:footie:Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S)
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What concerns me is you calling them "my boss" and "their employers"...are you really self employed? I'd never call my client the boss.
The language used "boss" and "their employers" was used moreso to allow people to understand what I was trying to ask.
I get what you are saying, however, I have worked for this gentleman (exclusively) for nearly ten years (my longest continuous employment if I compare it to my main position with one employer), so feel, the term "boss" is justified as that is the term we use.
TIA
s_dSometimes I wonder...
"why is that frisbee getting bigger?"
...and then it hits me
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Jesus loves you...A nice thing to hear in church, but a horrible thing to hear in a Mexican prison
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.0 -
An SIA licence is required or its a criminal offence, your employer has no tax or National Insurance liability, he does need public but as far as I'm aware employees liability to protect you from major financial loss if you experience a job-related injury or illness is not mandated and voluntary only. 10 to 20 years is not unusual but 10 continuous with 1 employer should deserve some support from the venue owner, even if however your employer [BB] is peripatetic.
Old school BB for 22 years, from London's finest to the stink pits all over the north of England - feel for you lad - best of luck.Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ0
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