Fitting Internal Doors - This sounds a lot!

Jst1990

Perfect thanks! Ordered one so will have a look through. Do you recommend buying separates rather than the "door kits"? Want to make sure of good quality rather than cut corners.

I've asked another carpenter to come around and have a look and get his opinion on the linings and provide another quote.

Thanks again

leveller2911

Jst1990 wrote: »

Perfect thanks! Ordered one so will have a look through. Do you recommend buying separates rather than the "door kits"? Want to make sure of good quality rather than cut corners.

Order seperates... When you actually order the latches and handles the carpenter should tell you which type of latches to order and the suitable "backset" of the latches.. The backset is the distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the handle/key hole.

If you are having door knobs rather than lever handles then a deeper backset is best so the knob is further away from the door lining and you won't crunch your knuckles on the door lining when opening/closing the door but the carpenter will be aware of this...

Good luck:D

Jst1990

Super, thanks again for all the help!

Furts

leveller2911 wrote: »

Order seperates... When you actually order the latches and handles the carpenter should tell you which type of latches to order and the suitable "backset" of the latches.. The backset is the distance from the edge of the door to the centre of the handle/key hole.

If you are having door knobs rather than lever handles then a deeper backset is best so the knob is further away from the door lining and you won't crunch your knuckles on the door lining when opening/closing the door but the carpenter will be aware of this...

Good luck:D

I have to be diplomatic here - the post was on behalf of OP's mother. I do not know her age but it is not deemed good practice to put knobs on doors. The industry moved away from that when consideration for all aged, disables etc. became topical. The problem is arthritis and rheumatism and gripping the knob. Hence good handles are recommended - the chunkier and straighter the better - and some sit too close to the door face and prevent a firm hand going around them.

You will see some highlighted in the Ironmongery Direct catalogue as particularly good - or they were when I last looked a while ago!

Also consider colour - ideally the handles should contrast with the door for those with visual impairment. Train carriage doors contrasting with the bodywork colour is an example of this.

Furts

brightontraveller wrote: »

Site work whomever oversees it should at least know if the jobs done well, quickly and cost effectively ? Seen plenty abominations and rip off pricing in the domestic market (although by no means exclusive) the latter is at least less prevalent on site ?

Domestic sometimes seams anyone with a saw becomes a carpenter? Add a ruler there then a cabinet maker,,,, Unfortunately the domestic client is often less knowledgeable and blinded by BS certainly not exclusive to one trade but more prevalent in some trades than other's? "there's always work in the domestic market for crappy tradesman and overpricing " :rotfl:

This is very, very spot on. But matters are not straightforward. Numerous cowboys get kicked off building sites and end up doing domestic work for naive consumers. But equally, numerous trades reach an age when they no longer want the environment of the building sites and move into the domestic market. The reason being less travelling, shorter days, less pressure, and a physical inability to match the speed of the young subbies they are pitched against.

martinsurrey

I'm also a firm fan of

http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/

excellent service, prices and choice.

TheCyclingProgrammer

These are the packs I got for my doors, very good value and the handles look great and operate very nicely.

http://www.handleking.co.uk/internal-door-handles/door-handle-packs/interior-door-handle-packs-with-duo-chrome-handles-latch-and-hinges-h750021d-hl1

I also got the bathroom pack for our shower room door. My only complaint was that the screws were not of good quality and the ones supplied with the bathroom kit were too long and were catching on the lock.

If you want to hang your doors on three hinges you'll need some extra sets.

You can probably get better quality hinges and latches, I'm sure, but I have no complaints about ours.

leveller2911

brightontraveller wrote: »

Domestic sometimes seams anyone with a saw becomes a carpenter?

Sites are no different BT, I've seen whole housing estates have their roofs taken back off after the "chippies" had incorrectly fitted all the trusses,windbreaks etc and thats truss roofs. As you know, a trained monkey should be able to put up a truss roof.

The traditional "cut and pitch roofs" are where the skill has always been. There are probably more cowboys in the domestic side of the industry ,as you say ,just buy a cordless kit and tool belt and suddenly your a carpenter.

Add a ruler there then a cabinet maker,,,, Unfortunately the domestic client is often less knowledgeable and blinded by BS certainly not exclusive to one trade but more prevalent in some trades than other's? "there's always work in the domestic market for crappy tradesman and overpricing " :rotfl:

All the time the house building industry accepts the lowest quote there will always be shortcuts taken and bodgers employed on site work and domestic are no different in that aspect. The quality of the houses being built in the UK today is dire and has been for decades.We can learn a great deal from the Germans and Scandinavians on how to build quality houses on a volume scale.Plenty of good quality houses being built on small sites of 2-10 porperties but the volume builders should be ashamed of what they are building.

The crux is there are no real apprenticeships now and thats a sad state of affairs.Until we see the return of the 3-5yr apprenticeships we will continue to see a decline in standards and quality but one thing is for sure, the house prices will continue to rise as will the developers profits.