Fitting Internal Doors - This sounds a lot!

PasturesNew

If she's got the space to keep the doors, you could try saving a bit by advertising them for free takeaway on a site like Freecycle.... although that is area dependent (ie if it's a dodgy area you don't want "all sorts" checking out where you live, who you are, etc).

martinthebandit

Just a thought, but how old is the house and how 'square' are the openings? There may be valid reasons for the quote seeming high.

leveller2911

Furts wrote: »

£15 for ironmongery is cheap, so be careful about what you buy. Provided you are happy then that is all that matters, but there is an enormous amount of tat sourced from India and China. As an example, the polished brass handle sets sold at B&Q rank as the worst quality I have come across. Many latches have excessive play allowing doors to rattle, many handle sets have poor springs and stops and do not last.

There are countless doors available so I cannot comment on your choice. As a guide my internal doors are hung on three hinges, (always recommended) - and each is a washered butt hinge. However, these are only 75mm so technically do not meet requirements - I had them surplus so that is why they were fitted!

My hinges, latch and handles are good quality but it is inconceivable that I could buy them for the £15 you quote.

Spot on and in a domestic property 3 x 75mm hinges is standard and as you say no way decent quality hinges,handles and latch will be £15.00 per door . Decent quality brass,satin chrome washered butt hinges are around £4-5 per pair (1.5 pairs needed) decent quality latch is at least £5 and handles no less than £18-20 per pair. The OP should be looking to pay around £30-00 + for ironmongery per door, minimum.

A decent chippy should be able to hang at least 6 a day including dust sheeting up so 2 days work , maximum of £400-500 labour only...

leveller2911

brightontraveller wrote: »

You tend to pay more for domestic carpenter/joiners whatever they wish to call themselves

As opposed to "Site carpenters" or whatever they call themselves?............

I thought the only difference was site chippies use 110v and don't possess dustsheets or a hoover..

Jst1990

Great thanks everyone!

Where would you recommend for good Ironmongery? I don't think around £30 per door would be an issue if it means good quality. It's a brushed metal sort of finish that I'm after.

It's also really useful to know the estimated labour prices too. I quickly called a decent joiner I used years ago and he said he normally charges £40 per door which I thought sounded ok-ish really. The house was built in 1998 so it's not a particularly old property. I don't know if that makes it harder or easier though to be honest!

leveller2911

Jst1990 wrote: »

Where would you recommend for good Ironmongery? I don't think around £30 per door would be an issue if it means good quality. It's a brushed metal sort of finish that I'm after.

Google "Ironmongery direct" , they have a website but its better to get them to send you a catologue . You have to search the website and you don't tend to see all the choices that are in the catologue..

It's also really useful to know the estimated labour prices too. I quickly called a decent joiner I used years ago and he said he normally charges £40 per door which I thought sounded ok-ish really. The house was built in 1998 so it's not a particularly old property. I don't know if that makes it harder or easier though to be honest!

If it was pre WWII then in general the quality of workmanship was better... If its on a housing estate built in the 90's then it may be ok but equelly the door linings could be in twist/wind and not parallel. The problem with housing estates is the guys fitting the door linings may not be the guys fitting the doors so they really don't care if they are fitted correctly.. Site chippies tend to bash stuff in as quick as possible to make their money. Most guys use routers and door jigs so theres no excuse to have poorly hung doors, but linings are a different kettle of fish.

Modern technology has taken the skill/knack out of hanging doors...

leveller2911

http://www.ironmongerydirect.co.uk/catalogue/request

There are other websites but I deal with these a lot and they don't tend to sell poor quality stuff ... Avoid B&Q,Wickes etc at all cost..

Furts

leveller2911 wrote: »

Google "Ironmongery direct" , they have a website but its better to get them to send you a catologue . You have to search the website and you don't tend to see all the choices that are in the catologue..

If it was pre WWII then in general the quality of workmanship was better... If its on a housing estate built in the 90's then it may be ok but equelly the door linings could be in twist/wind and not parallel. The problem with housing estates is the guys fitting the door linings may not be the guys fitting the doors so they really don't care if they are fitted correctly.. Site chippies tend to bash stuff in as quick as possible to make their money. Most guys use routers and door jigs so theres no excuse to have poorly hung doors, but linings are a different kettle of fish.

Spot on. I too am a fan of Ironmongery Direct, and if you check out their catalogue they offer guarantees on quality that is unheard of in the DIY sheds.

Get the catalogue and if you register, or say, you are a new customer you may get an introductory discount...hint, hint...perhaps 20% or so.

brightontraveller

leveller2911 wrote: »

As opposed to "Site carpenters" or whatever they call themselves?............

I thought the only difference was site chippies use 110v and don't possess dustsheets or a hoover..

Site work whomever oversees it should at least know if the jobs done well, quickly and cost effectively ? Seen plenty abominations and rip off pricing in the domestic market (although by no means exclusive) the latter is at least less prevalent on site ?

Domestic sometimes seams anyone with a saw becomes a carpenter? Add a ruler there then a cabinet maker,,,, Unfortunately the domestic client is often less knowledgeable and blinded by BS certainly not exclusive to one trade but more prevalent in some trades than other's? "there's always work in the domestic market for crappy tradesman and overpricing " :rotfl:

leveller2911

Furts wrote: »

leveller2911 wrote: »

Spot on. I too am a fan of Ironmongery Direct, and if you check out their catalogue they offer guarantees on quality that is unheard of in the DIY sheds.

Get the catalogue and if you register, or say, you are a new customer you may get an introductory discount...hint, hint...perhaps 20% or so.

For a while there when your order came and you unpacked it they would put packets of sweets in the box as a surprise........I liked that, really disappointed when theres nothing in the box now. A lot of their door handles have a 25yr warranty...:D

Mighton sometimes do surprise sweets too..