Can i be turned down for JSA??

RyanCarter

Hi all i have recently been claiming jsa signing on fortnightly. Two weeks ago i started a new job which was under an agency and only temporary. However after completing the two week training program that they provided i realised that the job was not good for me as i had issues with depression and anxiety and being around the amount of people in that call centre was giving me panic attacks. Therefore i have had to resign from the post and i have now put in a new claim for jsa again. I was too ill to work with that many people in that kind of setting but i could however do other types of work where there are fewer people that would be fine for me. I have made my new claim for jsa online and im now waiting to hear back from the DWP regarding an appointment.

Could they turn me down due to my circumstances though? That is one thing im quite worried about. I realise a sanction on the jsa i get might be delivered from them but will i still be able to claim for jsa successfully. Thanks very much in advance everyone.

paragon909

RyanCarter wrote: »

Hi all i have recently been claiming jsa signing on fortnightly. Two weeks ago i started a new job which was under an agency and only temporary. However after completing the two week training program that they provided i realised that the job was not good for me as i had issues with depression and anxiety and being around the amount of people in that call centre was giving me panic attacks. Therefore i have had to resign from the post and i have now put in a new claim for jsa again. I was too ill to work with that many people in that kind of setting but i could however do other types of work where there are fewer people that would be fine for me. I have made my new claim for jsa online and im now waiting to hear back from the DWP regarding an appointment.

Could they turn me down due to my circumstances though? That is one thing im quite worried about. I realise a sanction on the jsa i get might be delivered from them but will i still be able to claim for jsa successfully. Thanks very much in advance everyone.

I do believe they could refuse you JSA since you left the position voluntarily and wasn't released by the company.

If you have problems with anxiety maybe try a course of antidepressants and ESA for a while...

dippy3103

Yes, leaving your job voluntarily will get your JSA sanctioned.

sammyjammy

Employment on trial only kicks in after you have done at least four weeks. Any sanction would only be up to when the job was reasonable expected to end I believe.

giddypenguin

paragon909 wrote: »

If you have problems with anxiety maybe try a course of antidepressants and ESA for a while...

seriously? That's your advice?

pmlindyloo

If the Job Centre consider sanctioning you for voluntarily leaving a job then you would need to show 'good reason' for doing so.

Mental health problems may constitute good reason.

Read this link about sanctions - scroll down to 34236

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/446106/dmgch34.pdf

Is your doctor aware of your being prone to panic attacks when with large groups of people?

It might be useful to get evidence from your doctor saying that they are aware of your panic attacks. Of course, it would also be good to get some help with managing these. Are you receiving any help/support? Are you on medication for the panic attacks?

If you are, then you need to make sure that your advisor is aware of this and, if necessary, change your job seekers agreement to take account of the kind of environment that is safe for you to work in.

BigAunty

giddypenguin wrote: »

seriously? That's your advice?

I'd have preferred it to say 'seek medical treatment, research other forms of support, and claim ESA' but what else is there? It is advice far superior than 'pull yourself together, work is good for you'.

What do you advise?

BlueEyedGirl

giddypenguin wrote: »

seriously? That's your advice?

Why not? That is exactly what a GP did this evening in Channel 5's 'GPs: Behind Closed Doors' a young woman experiencing anxiety and panic attacks, gave her a prescription for Sertraline and Diazepam, offered to sign her off work and mentioned counselling, the drugs seemed the most prominent in the conversation!

paragon909

giddypenguin wrote: »

seriously? That's your advice?

I am guessing you don't have a social anxiety and don't understand what it is... Otherwise you wouldn't said what you did.

Being in a social situation and having anxiety isn't just something you can forget about, It leads to stress, constant worrying you end up with headaches, sweats etc.

BigAunty

paragon909 wrote: »

I am guessing you don't have a social anxiety and don't understand what it is... Otherwise you wouldn't said what you did.

Being in a social situation and having anxiety isn't just something you can forget about, It leads to stress, constant worrying you end up with headaches, sweats etc.

To be honest, I thought GiddyPenguin was finding the solution to it - anti depressants and a different type of benefit - a bit unimaginative rather than dismissing the condition out of hand. I assumed they were sensitive to the illness and though the solution was a bit pert.

I mean, I generally promote yoga, mindfulness, secular buddhism and meditation as a positive boon to mental health but manage to restrain myself to promoting it on the Family/relationship board as this forum is limited to answering specific benefit queries.

In fact, Eastern inspired therapy tend to see activities as beneficial. The Western view is that a person experiencing suffering has to be cured of it before they become active whereas the Eastern view is that being purposeful and active is therapeutic in itself. Not sure how this helps the OP who found that they can't cope with regular employment though, sorry OP for going off topic.

paragon909

BigAunty wrote: »

To be honest, I thought GiddyPenguin was finding the solution to it - anti depressants and a different type of benefit - a bit unimaginative rather than dismissing the condition out of hand. I assumed they were sensitive to the illness and though the solution was a bit pert.

I mean, I generally promote yoga, mindfulness, secular buddhism and meditation as a positive boon to mental health but manage to restrain myself to promoting it on the Family/relationship board as this forum is limited to answering specific benefit queries.

In fact, Eastern inspired therapy tend to see activities as beneficial. The Western view is that a person experiencing suffering has to be cured of it before they become active whereas the Eastern view is that being purposeful and active is therapeutic in itself. Not sure how this helps the OP who found that they can't cope with regular employment though, sorry OP for going off topic.

Well trying having like 3 different types of anxiety + depression + stress. The only way to cure this is anti-depressants then become active, To simply say just get up and be active is quite a hard thing to do. Anxiety has physical effects on your body as well which can lead to worsening anxiety.

I will stick to western methods of medication.


Plus am not really into that 60's hippy carry on, I would also recommend CBT to the OP.

p.s. Peace out