Euro cylinder lock advice

Hello,
I have a large composite door that is very sturdy BUT only has a 1 star UAP cylinder lock (which has no anti-snap lines). The lock, however, sits in a 2 star solid metal guard, which is attached around the lock. The lock is also protected by a 2 star door handle.


Is this adequate protection against lock snapping? or do I need to upgrade?


I am panicking as I read a thread elsewhere that said that UAP are awful locks and can be easily snapped within 15 seconds?!?!?!?!? :-(


Thanks for your help


Adam
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  • zax47
    zax47 Posts: 1,263 Forumite
    edited 10 October 2015 at 11:58AM
    Pile of junk. Sorry. Get something like Avocet ABS or ATK Diamond rated - nothing better in my opinion.

    http://www.abs-secure.co.uk/

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  • The latest method makes no difference what lock is in, however an anti snap may stop the "seen it on the internet" opportunists.
    Unfortunately the lock snapping craze gave burglars an insight in to how the door opening mechanism works and the latest method can open a UPVC door in seconds with a battery drill and coathanger.
    I do Contracts, all day every day.
  • I had a feeling what I read was correct and now, thanks to your honesty, I am even more certain I will change the lock. I just had to ask as the new locks are about £40 and I can't really afford that :-(

    Do you know if I can still use my cylinder guard and 2 star handle with these abs locks? I mean just for even more added security?

    Thanks again
  • zax47
    zax47 Posts: 1,263 Forumite
    They're all standard Eurocylinder style so you keep all your other stuff.
  • I lost the only key to the side-door of my garage and decided to drill the Euro lock. It was actually quite tricky even with power drill, mole-wrench etc. I take these snapping/drilling/bumping videos on YouTube with a pinch of salt since they always cut-away.

    That said, I've watched a skilled locksmith use picks on simple keyed door-knob and he made it look easy
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    edited 12 October 2015 at 4:13PM
    I have also worked with skilled locksmiths and euro locks and the ease of access varies between being able to pick it in minutes to having to drill and destroy it taking ages. The quick pickers seem to be the worn/cheap/locks with slack in them.
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  • eamon
    eamon Posts: 2,319 Forumite
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    The key thing is that the cylinder doesn't sit proud of the door handle i.e. nothing for mole grips to grip. All the brands mentioned so far will at least be 1* ( TS007 standard). Kaba do a *** cylinder. However a reasonable locking mechanism and reinforced frame should bring your door upto the *** standard. FWIW burglars tend to be opportunistic and will normally take the easiest/quickest way into a property.
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    Look snappers are now available which claim to grip to as low as 2mm protrusion. Even so ,they could just jemmy the handle off to provide more exposed lock..or just not bother with the lock and put the glass in instead..what can you do,,you can only do your best
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
  • Skintdoogle
    Skintdoogle Posts: 23 Forumite
    edited 8 May 2016 at 12:21AM
    Unfortunately the lock snapping craze gave burglars an insight in to how the door opening mechanism works and the latest method can open a UPVC door in seconds with a battery drill and coathanger.

    In that case, shouldn't a Patlock or sash jammers help address the latest method?

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  • ross1987
    ross1987 Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 3 November 2015 at 1:50AM
    Hi i need help urgently. The key has snapped in my ex girlfriends euro cylinder lock in the upvc door at back of the house. The door is unlocked and the house is not secure. She is home alone with her 6 year old son and I am sick with worry. We are unable to call locksmiths due to money troubles. Her landlord won't help he says it's her fault even though the lock has always been difficult to operate since she moved in. The key is turned in the lock but the lock is not engaged. I have removed the handles and retaining screw in the lock thinking the euro cylinder would simply slide out and i would be able to replace it, this is not the case. I think maybe the cam is turned stopping the euro cylinder from coming out. If I were to snap the euro cylinder with mole grips would this remove it enabling me to fit a new one? It doesn't look like an expensive one so don't think it has anti-snap system on it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
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