Log Cabin Planning Permission

getmore4less

ON that amazing spaces program some guy build a fancy shed for sleeping in, they said it was ok.

No utilities or facilities. S5,E3

martinsurrey

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/100806_PDforhouseholders_TechnicalGuidance.pdf

page 39

"A purpose incidental to a dwelling house would not, however, cover normal residential uses, such as separate self-contained accommodation nor the use of an outbuilding for primary living accommodation such as a bedroom, bathroom, or kitchen."

so a z bed in a shed for use when the grand kids want to camp out is fine as its NOT primary living, its incidental.

A log cabin with all the services would be viewed as primary living, so is NOT permitted development, full planning would be required.

smcqis

A separate dwelling on its own right right requires planning permission, but if it was used in connection with a lawful house, e.g. daughter living it in father in main house, using same access and garden space and regularly in and out of the house then it wouldnt, thats the NI view

planning_officer

Freecall wrote: »

The only question that matters is whether or not the structure is ‘Permitted Development’. Specifically, is it covered by the Town and Country Planning (General Permitted Development Order) 1995 (as amended)? You need to look at Schedule 2 which can be found here.

If it is permitted development then you can use it for any (domestic) use you wish provided that it is ancillary to the occupation of the host dwelling. If it isn’t then you will need planning consent.

So, if it is covered by PD, you can put granny in it, watch tv, sleep, cook or do any other thing that would be allowed in the rest of your house.

Before going ahead however, check that the Local Planning Authority has not removed any of the PD rights as part of an earlier planning consent since they sometimes do these days.

Actually, the third paragraph is incorrect. Case law is very clear - primary living accommodation (eg bedroom, living space) is NOT ancillary accommodation. Any new outbuilding containing those elements cannot be permitted development.

Also, the GPDO was replaced this year - it's the 2015 version now, not 1995. Good advice about checking whether PD rights have been removed though - that can apply to any dwelling and the quote above from the log cabin website is misleading as it fails to recognise that.

planning_officer

martinsurrey wrote: »

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/100806_PDforhouseholders_TechnicalGuidance.pdf

page 39

"A purpose incidental to a dwelling house would not, however, cover normal residential uses, such as separate self-contained accommodation nor the use of an outbuilding for primary living accommodation such as a bedroom, bathroom, or kitchen."

so a z bed in a shed for use when the grand kids want to camp out is fine as its NOT primary living, its incidental.

A log cabin with all the services would be viewed as primary living, so is NOT permitted development, full planning would be required.

Spot on. Good current link too.