Free the 4000

Coupon-mad

You and everyone else, see this thread too re a POPLA email I found (I have already shown it to the BPA and DVLA as proof that POPLA did NOT assess cases at all before staying them - or after, for that matter, I know that for sure too based on some of the rubbish evidence omissions I've seen that would have lost a POPLA case for a PPC in ten seconds flat, if an assessor had looked).

I have a hundred or so cases I'm ranting about getting a FAIR assessment for, so believe me, things have been said and the BPA is aware:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/69393708#Comment_69393708

I understand a decision won't come out about all this for maybe a fortnight but I'm 100% sure the sh11t has hit the fan somewhere and personally, I don't blame the BPA. I wouldn't like to be in their shoes right now on this matter, what with it being gobsmackingly obvious these 4000 cases need proper assessment of all appeal points but they must have their members breathing down their necks bleating about 'cashflow problems' and admin issues due to stayed PCNs. And whoever assesses the cases is going to charge bigger bucks for a full assessment x 4000 than the sham that was proposed after the chinese whispers somehow reached the BPA and led them to believe that all cases were 'assessed' save for Beavis issues.

If the sham happens it needs to get into the press and the ears of the appropriate Government Dept. I hope it doesn't have to go that far.

Grandad123

Hi C-M. Can only see this getting very messy.


I think at some time or other we may all have to get together to have a common strategy.


I have been trying to find where all our info is being 'held' with all the 'data safe' stories about at the moment!


Still with you on the case I am sure we will get sorted eventually.

soton_25

Hey Coupon-Mad... I just wanted to be absolutely certain that you didn't feel I was critical of you or any of the other wise heads on this board. I was just sounding off and "bumping" the thread. Naughty I know!


The fact that you have been pestering BPA etc I testament to your commitment to this board and your other activities in this area. Frankly it is quite fun watching everyone set to on the BPA and the old POPLA debacle. Frustrating but fun none the less.


Goodness only knows the politics and finances behind this that causes BPA to be told mis-truths about the status of these 4000 odd appeals. I think we only see 1/4 of the picture. I agree that the stakeholders behind the scenes are either bickering intensely or have heads so firmly stuck in the stand. Whatever they decided to do to proceed it will take plenty of negotiation.


Love to hear what Grandad123 finds out... happy digging.


To anyone else with a stayed old POPLA, due to Beavis GPEOL, thinking POPLA should have judged in their favour on some other prima facie ground... sit tight, chuckle into your cocoa, and watch out for rogue post on the mat.

Grandad123

Hi Soton.
Just got it from the horses mouth. Although POPLA shut up shop on 1st October they had a power 'outage' so were still sending out mail although they didn't exist. I expect Boris was getting a hair cut. So that clears that up!


Also no need to worry about our data protection as appeals are locked up safely in BPA safe, and we know how diligent they are!

hoohoo

Grandad123 wrote: »

Hi Soton.
Just got it from the horses mouth. Although POPLA shut up shop on 1st October they had a power 'outage' so were still sending out mail although they didn't exist. I expect Boris was getting a hair cut. So that clears that up!


Also no need to worry about our data protection as appeals are locked up safely in BPA safe, and we know how diligent they are!

Good job I wasn't drinking coffee while I read that, or I would have spat it over my keyboard laughing.

Grandad123

I'm on Ovaltine this time of night.

soton_25

Oh c'mon... take this forum seriously. :rotfl:

Grandad123

Now we have the verdict it will be interesting to see what drops in the post on Monday.


While I am waiting I wonder if one of the legal eagles on here could clarify something for me.


Basically who is responsible for ensuring the appeals have had a fair hearing.


My understanding is that POPLA was set up to stop all the cases jamming up the local courts. But they couldn't have had the same 'legal' standing as their ruling wasn't binding.


If the BPA now tell us all we have to pay up without any 'hearing' we will be back to square one.

The_Slithy_Tove

IMO, if the PPC was attempting to claim the charge is GPEOL, then they cannot suddenly decide it's not GPEOL but is a charge in excess of their losses, justifiable under the SC ruling. Therefore they'd still have to substantiate and defend their GPEOL submission, which in most cases is clearly nothing of the sort. Hoist by their own petard.

Grandad123

Sorry. Just wanted to bump the thread so you don't forget us.


Emailed Aos the other day and they have been busy doing nothing. I suppose they will be busy wrapping their presents to all the PPC's so we will be in to Jan. before we hear anything.


That lovely Gemma is referring to the new arbitrators as POPLA which is a bit confusing. How many can there be