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  • caveman38
    caveman38 Posts: 1,311 Forumite
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    I asked this question on a previous thread without any response.


    Would this MBNA CC serve as a "Mule" card if your happy to pay 0.5% transfer fee https://www.mbna.co.uk/compare-credit-cards/balance-transfer-credit-cards/mbna-five/
    I can't get to the T&C to delve deeper.
    Anyone use it for that purpose.


    I cannot see another that states that it is happy to transfer money although it doesn't state positive balances, I assume that it would.
  • Hi
    Need to check here. I have 15 k over 3 cards at 0% with a minimum monthly payment totaling c £225 / month. I'm running out of decent savings options over the next few months. I'm finding the £225/month minimum payment a bit of hit of late, and with a return that is going to dwindle below 4% I struggling to see this is a worthwhile venture any more. About half of this 15k is from deliberate stoozing on a Sainsbury credit card, the other half was accrued to ease the strain of several large purchases,

    I could now pay these down over the next few months and am struggling to see I'm really making anything out of this anymore..any advice ?
    Over £2K made from bank switches and P2P incentives since 2016 :beer:
  • TheShape
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    Hi
    Need to check here. I have 15 k over 3 cards at 0% with a minimum monthly payment totaling c £225 / month. I'm running out of decent savings options over the next few months. I'm finding the £225/month minimum payment a bit of hit of late, and with a return that is going to dwindle below 4% I struggling to see this is a worthwhile venture any more. About half of this 15k is from deliberate stoozing on a Sainsbury credit card, the other half was accrued to ease the strain of several large purchases,

    I could now pay these down over the next few months and am struggling to see I'm really making anything out of this anymore..any advice ?

    Where have you put the stoozed funds? If you've got £15k of stoozed funds in cash you could be paying the £225 from this if you can't pay it from income, or have you invested/otherwise tied-up the funds? Of course, if some of the spending was for larger purchases not budgeted for you may not have the full £15k but you should still have approx half of this from your 'deliberate' stooze.

    As to the return, I put your numbers (£225 flat monthly payment for simplicity) into the calculator below. Your return at a savings rate of 3% should be in excess of £400 for the next 12 months.

    http://stoozing.com/calculator/stoozcalc.php
  • asc1991
    asc1991 Posts: 95 Forumite
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    So, I'm coming to the end of my card 0% purchase period after which I will transfer the balance to a card with 0% on transfers for 28 months and 0% transfer fee.

    However I'm still £500 short of my credit limit. Sadly withdrawing cash isn't cost efficient on a credit card, however buying Amazon vouchers is. Amazon vouchers last a long time and I probably spend a couple of hundred there a year.

    I just wondered what other tactics people use to fully utilise their credit limit when nearing the end of the offer period?
  • TheShape
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    asc1991 wrote: »
    So, I'm coming to the end of my card 0% purchase period after which I will transfer the balance to a card with 0% on transfers for 28 months and 0% transfer fee.

    However I'm still £500 short of my credit limit. Sadly withdrawing cash isn't cost efficient on a credit card, however buying Amazon vouchers is. Amazon vouchers last a long time and I probably spend a couple of hundred there a year.

    I just wondered what other tactics people use to fully utilise their credit limit when nearing the end of the offer period?

    I made some extra spending to get the full monthly cashback on my TSB 0% purchase card recently. I won't be needing to buy any more cat food for a while.
  • ironagedave
    ironagedave Posts: 22 Forumite
    OK I just wanted to check this is stoozing before trying this out:

    Step one: apply for BT interest free say 4k to transfer assuming you get the card
    Step two: credit a currently held credit card which has a 0 balance.
    Step three: credit card now in credit so transfers to current account and then put money in ISA,
    Step four: set up to DD plan to repay credit card within twelve months.

    Effectively giving you a years advance on ISAs each financial year. Just coming out of debt so looking to save again. Is it worth it?
  • MallyGirl
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    make sure you are putting a card in credit that is happy to be a mule - such as MBNA. otherwise you risk having the transfer bounced back but still costing you the fee (if there is one)
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  • YorkshireBoy
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    OK I just wanted to check this is stoozing before trying this out:

    Step one: apply for BT interest free say 4k to transfer assuming you get the card
    Step two: credit a currently held credit card which has a 0 balance.
    Step three: credit card now in credit so transfers to current account and then put money in ISA,
    Step four: set up to DD plan to repay credit card within twelve months.

    Effectively giving you a years advance on ISAs each financial year. Just coming out of debt so looking to save again. Is it worth it?
    Why an ISA? You'd probably get 4-5 times the return using Nationwide products.

    And why repay in 12 months when you should have 28 months 0%?
  • ironagedave
    ironagedave Posts: 22 Forumite
    Why an ISA? You'd probably get 4-5 times the return using Nationwide products.

    And why repay in 12 months when you should have 28 months 0%?

    A) the other rates will only give you net and all offers are variable with interest rates consistently dropping and although ISAs are equally variable, they are less likely to get a hit should rates drop further, I prefer reliability.
    B) 12 months so it is affordable and I can do the same next financial year as well rather than risk getting behind on repayments every year because in 4 to 5 years time you will have overlapped 5 times a month on repayments. Doesn't mean I couldn't go for a 28 month one, just my intention is to clear it by the end of the financial year.
  • MallyGirl
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    I don't think you are going to make much money this way
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