National Home Security Month 2015

Frozen_up_north

Carnival789 wrote: »

I've just purchased a 2nd (holiday) home which will sit unoccupied for several weeks at a time.

Am toying with the idea of setting up remote webcam type things that you can get, preferably one that records footage rather than just letting you watch a live stream. Anyone care to share their own experiences of this kind of device (or any other security tips that you feel may help?)

Thank you in advance!

Friends who live overseas for most of the year also have a property in the UK. The property has been burgled 5 times despite having nothing of value either "hidden" or on show and also having a police response alarm system fitted. The only measure that finally defeated the burglars was the fitting of rather ugly security gates on the outside doors and roller shutters on the windows.

Alarms, security lights and gadgets to mimick being at home only work to a limited extent.

Former_MSE_Andrea

LilElvis wrote: »

"The MoneySaving cat says compare home insurance then get a burglar alarm with your savings!"

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

So MoneySaving cat reckons you can get a burglar alarm for twenty or thirty quid. He must live in an alternate reality .... complete with talking cats, but bearing little relation to the real world. My monitored alarm costs more than that per month.

Can't MSE come up with something better than this tosh?

Made you look though, and laugh :rotfl:

National_Home_Security_Month

Carnival789 wrote: »

I've just purchased a 2nd (holiday) home which will sit unoccupied for several weeks at a time.

Am toying with the idea of setting up remote webcam type things that you can get, preferably one that records footage rather than just letting you watch a live stream. Anyone care to share their own experiences of this kind of device (or any other security tips that you feel may help?)

Thank you in advance!

Hi. You may want to consider a CCTV system. They offer a ways and means of keeping an eye on your home, even while you’re not around. The Yale SmartPhone Alarm and CCTV kits allow you to access your security system remotely, so that you are alerted if the alarm is triggered, or if you simply want to check in and see that everything’s ship-shape. You can view footage anywhere in the world using a smartphone, tablet or PC. All you have to do is set up your recorder with an internet connection. Hope this helps.

National_Home_Security_Month

bella165 wrote: »

Hiya my question is what can i put on the top of a 6ft wooden gate and fence anivandle paint don't work and when i am away i can't see the security lights go on so thats no good (my neighbours are not nice so even if they knew who did it they wouldn't tell!) i am sick of things getting stolen/vandalised i am at my witts end hope you can help .

Hi. Again, you may want to consider a CCTV system to protect your home. They are are a fantastic criminal deterrent and offer a ways and means of keeping an eye on your home, even while you’re not around. If you're thinking of getting a home CCTV system for the outside of your property though you must comply with privacy laws. This means making sure that your cameras aren't pointed at public space or other people's houses or gardens. Best thing to do is check the Data Protection Act (DPA) if you’re unsure. Hope this helps.

bella165

thats the problem i have cctv but i cant have one pointing down the ally to my back garden as its shared and they dont care if they get seen i was going to use barbed wire but its illegal,ive tried anti climb paint with no luck and also pigeon strips just kept the cats away.

KarlF

I'll bite.

Which part of the data protection act covers a private residence?

edit: Here's a hint, none of it.

The Data Protection Act controls how your personal information is used by organisations, businesses or the government.

https://www.gov.uk/data-protection/the-data-protection-act

Might be worth doing a little research before spreading info that is supposedly fact.

National_Home_Security_Month wrote: »

Hi. Again, you may want to consider a CCTV system to protect your home. They are are a fantastic criminal deterrent and offer a ways and means of keeping an eye on your home, even while you’re not around. If you're thinking of getting a home CCTV system for the outside of your property though you must comply with privacy laws. This means making sure that your cameras aren't pointed at public space or other people's houses or gardens. Best thing to do is check the Data Protection Act (DPA) if you’re unsure. Hope this helps.

Tropez

KarlF wrote: »

I'll bite.

Which part of the data protection act covers a private residence?

edit: Here's a hint, none of it.

The Data Protection Act controls how your personal information is used by organisations, businesses or the government.

https://www.gov.uk/data-protection/the-data-protection-act

Might be worth doing a little research before spreading info that is supposedly fact.

There is a domestic purposes exemption to the Data Protection Act (Section 36) that covers use of CCTV on private residences (among other domestic things, like keeping databases of friends and family birthdays, for example).

However, last year, the European Court of Justice ruled that the domestic purposes exemption would cease to apply if CCTV on a private residence captured images from public property.

In response, the Information Commissioner's Office updated their guidelines on the use of CCTV to state:

If your camera covers, even partially, any areas beyond the boundaries of your property, such as neighbouring gardens or the street, then it will no longer be exempt from the Data Protection Act (DPA) under the domestic purposes exemption. This does not mean that you are breaching the DPA but it does mean that you are subject to it.

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ (information about CCTV on domestic property begins roughly half-way down the page).

KarlF

Tropez wrote: »

There is a domestic purposes exemption to the Data Protection Act (Section 36) that covers use of CCTV on private residences (among other domestic things, like keeping databases of friends and family birthdays, for example).

However, last year, the European Court of Justice ruled that the domestic purposes exemption would cease to apply if CCTV on a private residence captured images from public property.

In response, the Information Commissioner's Office updated their guidelines on the use of CCTV to state:

https://ico.org.uk/for-the-public/cctv/ (information about CCTV on domestic property begins roughly half-way down the page).

Had a quick look on your link, but cannot find what you are referring to?

Tropez

KarlF wrote: »

Had a quick look on your link, but cannot find what you are referring to?

The quote I pasted is the second paragraph under the eighth bold, larger typeset heading: "What if my camera captures footage of individuals beyond the boundaries of my property?"

LilElvis

MSE_Andrea wrote: »

Made you look though, and laugh :rotfl:

I looked, and laughed with incredulity. It's not a positive.

It just makes the site look stupid and lacking in credibility.