From the other side!

g0wfv

Why not create some laminated signs with lots of small print and plaster them around your land hap-hazardly.

Then when someone parks on your land, slap a Parking Charge Notice of your own design on their car with details of how to pay the charge. Don't forget to quote some legalese to scare them!




In all seriousness, this could work to get the message across - obviously you wouldn't actually collect any dosh from them ... or would you?!

Wasn't there a thread somewhere with a PPC offering a free sample DIY kit?

I do, however like the clamped car idea!

Hot_Bring

puffernutter wrote: »

Thanks for all the suggestions. No I haven't read all the legislation, but how is then that they can park on land that I own (and it appears I can do nothing about it) yet I can't park on their driveway - what's the difference?

Unlike shop car parks you CAN do something about it - sue the drivers for trespass because you haven't invited them on to your land like shops do. Problem being is that it will probably end up costing you more than you get back.

I'm still unclear as to what these people are actually doing ? Blocking your access road ? Actually parking in your spaces ?

puffernutter

And there the fun starts.....

Looking at the deeds, we jointly own the land, but that allocation of parking spaces is slightly fuzzier! We did install posts a few years ago to clearly identify the spaces, but certain parties at that time decided it made life too difficult parking, so they removed them and we now have the anarchy.... (Mine are still in place, although I had to remove a motorbike from my parking space today) but they park really close to the entrance which makes the turn in (with anything but a car) tricky and I occasionally bring a LWB van home. With Flashpark, it is self-policing. You photograph the offending vehicle and send the details to them. They do not "patrol" per se. You pay an annual fee for their signs which you need to erect.

Umkomaas

You could hire a local thick-necked gorilla to have a 'quiet word' with fly parkers. Plenty of tattoos and a face like a busted boot would be two of the essential job application criteria!

enfield_freddy

in fact he could get money by charging by the hour , at times you do not park

Umkomaas

With Flashpark, it is self-policing. You photograph the offending vehicle and send the details to them. They do not "patrol" per se.

Presumably you have already identified a Norris Cole for the job? No doubt he'll be on a back-handler from Flashpark? And once his money starts rolling in, do you have safeguards in place to prevent him becoming addicted to his 'nice little earner' and halt him in snapping all and sundry?

And are you ready for him to camera your car, and are you set up and prepared to handle up to six years' of sh|te from Flaspark and their debt collectors? And if Beavis goes t|ts up, to handle a potential court case?

Lots to think about. So think hard!

bazster

puffernutter wrote: »

You photograph the offending vehicle and send the details to them. They do not "patrol" per se. You pay an annual fee for their signs which you need to erect.

We know how Flashpark works.

In any group of neighbours there's always some busybody d|ckhead who makes it his business to make everyone else's life difficult. I had one next door to me once, he was universally known as "knobhead", a total pain in the a**e. If you have (or acquire) one of these you may find out that self-ticketing is no defence against your own vehicles being targeted. Flashpark will not give a s**t, like all of these companies they are a registration number harvesting machine, and once they've got a VRN they don't care about the ins-and-outs, they just want money.

Flashpark never pursues anyone to court, how could they? Their "evidence" (photos taken on mobile 'phones by random strangers, that could've been taken anywhere, anytime by anyone) is so flimsy that anyone could drive a coach and horses through it. So any fly-parker who understands this will simply ignore the Flashpark signs (and the toilet paper they get sent in the post) and carry on parking.

And if someone comes here for help, after we've told him that we don't condone parking without permission we will still help him to get Flashpark off his back, and once he knows there is nothing to fear from them well, it's up to him...

You might want to look into the notion of vicarious liability. If someone pays Flashpark and then has second thoughts (after speaking to their brother-in-law who's a barrister or something like that) they might decide to sue for their money back, and you will then be firmly in the frame as Flashpark's principal.

You can deal with this yourselves. As landowners you are entitled to get the vehicle keeper's name and address from DVLA, so a letter in the post warning of a possible trespass claim and injunction may do the trick. And you could indeed bring a claim: damages for trespass are typically small, and you would have difficulty fingering the vehicle keeper as the driver, but the very fact of receiving a claim would put most people off of ever parking there again, and is certainly something Flashpark will never do.

Parking on private land is not illegal. Deliberately immobilising someone else's vehicle (e.g. by blocking them in on their driveway) is illegal.

Flashpark is in fact one Costas Constantinou, a notorious former clamper and twice winner of the RAC Foundation's !!!!!! Turpin award for modern highway robbery. He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon...

The_Deep

I suffered from the same problem. I printed off pictures of a calthrop and placed them on the windscreen of the rogue parker, with the inscription "next time".

hoohoo

+1 to Bazter. The DIY route is all that is needed. Make your own signs stating that parking here is trespassing. Get photos of the driver. Get their name and address from the DVLA, or just follow them home. Write them a letter before action, then take them to the small claims court for trespass. Even if you only get £1 from them (nominal trespass damage), they will also have to pay £25 filing fee and £25 hearing costs.

Rinse and repeat. They will soon get the message.

Umkomaas

Ah, calthrop, a nasty bit of work!