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Career advice required – Law – I have never got off the ground - Long post

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  • SeduLOUs
    SeduLOUs Posts: 2,171 Forumite
    edited 3 October 2015 at 1:48PM
    Like BucksLady, I didn't perceive the remark as light-hearted either. Our perception of other people, and what and how they say things, will be entirely different - thought for your consideration, maybe.

    I'll consider it, and I understand that text can often be read in different contexts, but overall I feel it's a shame when we live in a world where being proud of our achievements is automatically 'judged' as gloating and that for some reason everyone is expected to keep successes firmly to themselves. I often shy away from posting exam results that I am immensely proud of on Facebook because I know that some people on there for whatever reason will sit seething behind their screens at it.

    Doesn't stop me having to wade through hundreds of photos of peoples' children passing this swimming test, or earning such a karate belt though.

    I think she has every right to be proud of her achievement and even to show off that fact, as long as it isn't used in a derogatory way towards others, which I honestly don't believe it was - her post overall was a helpful contribution to the thread based on her experience, telling us that even with a high grade law degree, a career is absolutely not guaranteed.
  • Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course. I find it interesting to see that neither of you thanked the poster concerned. The praise has been given, only as a result of one comment made.
  • SeduLOUs
    SeduLOUs Posts: 2,171 Forumite
    edited 3 October 2015 at 4:30PM
    Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course. I find it interesting to see that neither of you thanked the poster concerned. The praise has been given, only as a result of one comment made.

    I didn't 'thank' the poster because I didn't feel the need to. I only felt the need to post when someone called her out for being proud of her achievements, which didn't seem appropriate to me for reasons already stated, but also because the poster is a 'forum newbie' and they are supposed to be treated more delicately anyway.
  • Alarae
    Alarae Posts: 356 Forumite
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    This is more to post my current situation and see if this helps.

    I graduated from a top 20 Uni in Law with a 2:1 in 2014. I secured a non-graduate job before I received my exam results as it was interesting and I needed the security of an income (was renting with my partner). I always worked while at uni so I have a working history going back to 16.

    My current job is in asset management in property. It has given me a lot of knowledge of working with vulnerable individuals and large Clients (including solicitors) but after a year I've realised it's not a career. I haven't applied to graduate schemes previously as I didn't know what I want to do but I've realised I want to move into Tax. I did a module in Revenue Law during my third year and found it quite interesting; each individual will have a different tax scenario so it's like finding the best answer for the problem. I love problem solving, so Tax is a good area for me to move into.

    I'm currently in the process if applying to graduate schemes in Tax and through a recruiter I have secured an interview with a Tax partner in a smaller firm. They offer study support for ATT and then CTA, which would push my development and knowledge.

    I know earlier on you said no to accountancy, but how about tax? It is based in law so it wouldn't be all numbers. There are a lot of firms that take on trainees and offer study support so you can easily progress into a career.
  • SeduLOUs wrote: »
    I didn't 'thank' the poster because I didn't feel the need to. I only felt the need to post when someone called her out for being proud of her achievements, which didn't seem appropriate to me for reasons already stated, but also because the poster is a 'forum newbie' and they are supposed to be treated more delicately anyway.

    Mr Costcutter is also a 'forum newbie'.
  • SeduLOUs
    SeduLOUs Posts: 2,171 Forumite
    Mr Costcutter is also a 'forum newbie'.

    And I believe I have been perfectly polite to him? I explained that whilst I understood where he was coming from my opinion still differed (with an explanation as to why I felt that way).

    If people feeling aggrieved at other people posting about their achievements than that's absolutely their prerogative to sit behind their screens judging them as gloaters and show offs if they wish. But I honestly don't understand why it was necessary to actually post - what could that post possibly achieve? At best, the debate we are currently having, at worst a potentially upset new poster who may never now return to the forums as a result.

    People cheer each other along all the time in the DFW board for tiny successes to huge ones. I wonder what sort of a place that would become if people were made to feel guilty for being proud of achieving something and simply stopped posting.

    Anyway, I think we've derailed the thread enough now.
  • SeduLOUs wrote: »

    If people feeling aggrieved at other people posting about their achievements than that's absolutely their prerogative to sit behind their screens judging them as gloaters and show offs if they wish. But I honestly don't understand why it was necessary to actually post - what could that post possibly achieve? At best, the debate we are currently having, at worst a potentially upset new poster who may never now return to the forums as a result.

    If you felt so strongly about the comment made, perhaps you should have reported it. The post would have then been deleted.
  • SeduLOUs
    SeduLOUs Posts: 2,171 Forumite
    Jeez. Why would I report the post? Me not understanding why someone felt it necessary to post something, and someone posting something in breach of forum policy are two very different things...

    Someone felt strongly enough to call out a poster for stating that they were 'awesome' for completing their degree. I felt strongly enough that the comment was completely unnecessary which prompted me to say so. Others have chipped in their thoughts on the matter (as is the norm for a forum environment). End of story surely?
  • SeduLOUs wrote: »
    Jeez. Why would I report the post? Me not understanding why someone felt it necessary to post something

    Exactly, you didn't understand why the person felt it necessary to post. Yet, your stance is that they were entirely wrong to do so. You may not share the same opinion as the poster, but unless you understand why she made that statement, you are not in the position to say that she was wrong to do so.
  • SeduLOUs
    SeduLOUs Posts: 2,171 Forumite
    Exactly, you didn't understand why the person felt it necessary to post. Yet, your stance is that they were entirely wrong to do so.

    My stance is and always has been that it is my opinion that they were wrong to do so. I have not reported the post, nor accused anyone of breaking any rules.

    My reason for stating my opinion on the matter was because I personally cannot think of a reason for the post in question, other than it being a deliberate attempt to upset, anger or troll the poster to which it referred, particularly as I personally find it impossible to believe that anyone was genuinely offended by someone stating that they are 'awesome'.

    With hindsight, I shouldn't have posted. In my opinion the call out was clearly a troll post, so I should not have taken the bait.
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