VW shares

50Twuncle

I was wondering when the best time to invest in Volkswagen was ?
The German government will, no doubt, ensure that the company survives and may also "bail them out" - so, if the shares do drop further - when is the time to invest ?

ChesterDog

When they're at the bottom.

Not being facetious... That's is exactly why it is nigh-on impossible to time the market. How would you, I, or anyone else know something about such things that the market as a whole does not?

Glen_Clark

The news keeps on getting worse, yet the shares rose recently, which I guess was the short sellers buying back.
The only news I can see that would significantly relieve the pressure on VW is if the other manufacturers were found to be doing the same thing. But as time goes on that seems less likely as you would think they would have been found out by now?

Glen_Clark

50Twuncle wrote: »

The German government will, no doubt, ensure that the company survives

That doesn't mean the shareholders will survive.
Marconi survived, but the banks helped themselves to 99.5% of the equity without a shareholder vote....

Scarpacci

The best car companies have generally been bad investments, so why rush in on one which has been terribly managed? Nobody knows how this will end for VW. Fines and a loss of trust are certain, but it could be worse. A German bail-out wouldn't necessarily help shareholders, and why invest in something that's dependent on politicians to turn out okay?

I don't think I'd want to invest in the best car company, since there's so many problems with the industry that make it just awful for investors. The main one being that in a downturn or when people are feeling a bit tight with money, it's extremely easy to just keep running your old car. You don't need to continually replenish it like food or shampoo. So the sales drop off a cliff while the company is stuck with unsold cars and huge, expensive factories that can hardly turn on and off on a dime.

redux

Glen_Clark wrote: »

That doesn't mean the shareholders will survive.
Marconi survived, but the banks helped themselves to 99.5% of the equity without a shareholder vote....

It was a stunning turn around from what was a cash rich company as Weinstock's GEC.

New paradigm, as someone just replied on your thread about most frightening words.

george4064

Telegraph Questor today was saying to Avoid VW shares.

Thrugelmir

50Twuncle wrote: »

The German government will, no doubt, ensure that the company survives

How? By buying vehicles........

Loss of customer confidence isn't something that can be bought with money.

Mistermeaner

My passat is starting to look like a bad investment

That's quite enough vw exposure for me