Do I need PP to let people park cars on my land?

htrj

Firstly apologies to the moderators if this is in the wrong place but I hoped someone in this forum would have a fair idea of planning regulations.

Recently, I have noticed about 50 or so of the employees of a local business have started to park in a lane beside my land. Not only is this dangerous for all the local residents and highway users but I notice the employees now walking along the lane along side the parked cars with a look of absolute peril on their faces. It would appear they would appreciate a better solution to this parking issue.

The paddock land I own adjacent to this lane would be a far more convenient and safer place for the employees to park in but would I need planning permission to allow them to park there? I guess I could have up to 50 cars at a time in there, there is no hard standing just grass, its green belt land but not ONB or conservation area. It may be relevant that access to the proposed parking site from the highway is across the businesses land and has the benefit of a clearly expressed right of way.

Let me know if you need any more info and ill let you know.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Bluebirdman_of_Alcathays

If it's over 28 days a year, yes.

If you plan to charge for this solution and don't obtain PP, you could face prosecution under the proceeds of crime act.

Whether you succeed or not depends on a wide range of factors. You need professional advice.

htrj

Interesting,

Someone had told me I wouldnt need permission to use the land to store caravans on it so I was half expecting the principal to be the same for parking cars.

Do you think it would be worth talking to the council about it or just going straight for independent advice?

Stevie_Palimo

Try the council first and be aware if its grass what happens when it is wet and cars get stuck will you have a tractor plus time on your hands to free them all ?

LandyAndy

htrj wrote: »

The paddock land I own adjacent to this lane would be a far more convenient and safer place for the employees to park in but would I need planning permission to allow them to park there? I guess I could have up to 50 cars at a time in there, there is no hard standing just grass, its green belt land but not ONB or conservation area. It may be relevant that access to the proposed parking site from the highway is across the businesses land and has the benefit of a clearly expressed right of way.

Let me know if you need any more info and ill let you know.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

I think this makes it a complete non-starter. A few days, let alone weeks, of rain will see the access gateway, if not the whole area, impassable.

fed_up_and_stressed

htrj wrote: »

Firstly apologies to the moderators if this is in the wrong place but I hoped someone in this forum would have a fair idea of planning regulations.

Recently, I have noticed about 50 or so of the employees of a local business have started to park in a lane beside my land. Not only is this dangerous for all the local residents and highway users but I notice the employees now walking along the lane along side the parked cars with a look of absolute peril on their faces. It would appear they would appreciate a better solution to this parking issue.

The paddock land I own adjacent to this lane would be a far more convenient and safer place for the employees to park in but would I need planning permission to allow them to park there? I guess I could have up to 50 cars at a time in there, there is no hard standing just grass, its green belt land but not ONB or conservation area. It may be relevant that access to the proposed parking site from the highway is across the businesses land and has the benefit of a clearly expressed right of way.

Let me know if you need any more info and ill let you know.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Regardless of the issue of parking on your land I think a call to the local councillor to say that the employees are being put at risk by lack of suitable parking for the business may be in order.

In my city employees of a large business were blighting an area by their inconsiderate parking and eventually the council and the business got together to come up with suitable arrangements which meant residents were able to get a break from the employees parking like morons (eventually the business leased addtional parking from another business for their employees to use).

cattermole

You cannot store caravans on mass either, the 28 day rule still applies. In addition as a caravan owner people want secure storage with security fencing all of which would need planning and involve considerable investment.

eddddy

Here's an article about somebody who created a car park on green belt land without planning consent (although they went further, and created hard standing, but it would have still been illegal without that) :

Following a court case the landowner has been left facing fines and legal costs of around £50,000.

link: http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/general/news/stories/2013/Jan13/17012013/17012013_5

Bluebirdman_of_Alcathays

htrj wrote: »

Someone had told me I wouldnt need permission to use the land to store caravans on it so I was half expecting the principal to be the same for parking cars.

Was that someone a planning lawyer? Is 50 cars the same as some caravans?


By all means have a chat with your local planning officers, they should give you a tip if it's a total non-starter. Once the ball is rolling, you'll need some decent planning advice. I know of a few, but they're far from cheap.

martindow

Are the cars blocking access for a fire engine to other houses? If so the fire brigade would be interested. I would start with a local councillor.

You mention this being green belt land. In that case I think the chances of getting planning for parking on your land is very unlikely.

I'm not sure if your main concern is the parking and blocking of the lane or the opportunity to make some cash renting out the paddock.

AnnieO1234

There's a simple solution; use grass grids as far as a hard wearing but graded parking area goes.

The simplest way IMHO would be approach a local parking company; get them to check it out and maybe run it for give years with the set up capexed in their costs. Then simply buy the second hand equipment at end if lease and continue to run.

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